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    #71
    That entire long diatribe could have been summed up in two words: Hardwork, Medication.

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      #72
      Originally posted by gbonafide View Post
      In this day & age that's just being naive. If they took the carbon isotope test instead of the bush league NSAC piss test you would have your proof. Anyone who isn't a PAC hater or JMM fanboy would objectively look at the facts and know he cheated. Beating Manny meant everything to him and he went to any lengths to achieve that. He hired the right guy to make sure he didn't get caught within the parameters set forth in the deal.
      That is pure rhetoric and fabrication. Beating Pac meant learning to time him coming in with his rushes and thats what he did. He dropped opponents in sparring with the same shot practiced over and over. You have zero proof of PEDS.
      Last edited by richardt; 09-25-2013, 10:24 AM.

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        #73
        Originally posted by KeepItObjective View Post
        Wow protein shakes!!!
        Lmao that's all they were right??

        You PAC fans are amazing

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          #74
          Originally posted by SoggyLungs
          yes he just hooked up with heredia...but i believe he wasn't fully invested into doping at that point (was just getting into the routine) but you can see the beginning transformation in his physique and how much more sharper and quicker he was at welterweight whereas before he looked slower and sluggish....

          and i doubt marquez would spend the time and money (designer peds aren't cheap) heavily doping against some euro bum like fedchenko...

          but in the 4th fight marquez, having spent close to a year with heredia, became more invested into the doping program and started focusing more on POWER this time around...for example, in the 24/7 series, marquez was shown squatting huge amounts of weight which helps build speed, power and explosiveness...but it's unusual for boxers (especially 39/40 year old boxers) to be squatting huge amount of weights because your body needs more time to recover from that kind of exercise...yahoo sports wrote an article about this and had several boxing trainers and conditioning coaches say how unusual it was for marquez to be doing such a workout because it is hard on the body...
          So where were you when PAC was slaughtering welterweights and money start raising questions???????

          You were prob singing pacquiaos hit "sometimes when we touch" on kareoke with all your other PAC fan boys........

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            #75
            I don't doubt JMM's discipline and dedication, but let's face it HE JUICES!!! No fighter suddenly moves up 2 weight classes and out of nowhere gets ONE PUNCH KNOCKOUT POWER at 39 years old!!! Having a well-known dirty PED trainer while the PED testing in the sport is highly inept is added compelling evidence. People only talk about the devastating KO punch, but the first knockdown of Pacquiao was just as compelling. Pac saw that punch coming, raised his guard and still got knocked down. JMM was never able to do that to a top boxer at featherweight!

            JMM thinks his practiced long-winded answer to that question will convince his fans that he's clean. Maybe it will, but insiders of the sport and intelligent people know what's up.

            P.S. Yes...Pac is su****ious during 2009 and Floyd is su****ious for taking a year off between fights without being tested. But JMM is a slam dunk. However, without a positive test from legit testing or witness testimony, no athlete will ever get caught.
            Last edited by FloydvsPac; 09-25-2013, 11:50 AM.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Check_hooks View Post
              Its simple, he hired the Michael Jordan of PED's

              Originally posted by James_Toney View Post
              i thought it was piss?

              oh no, ostrich eggs?

              oh no, the hyperbaric chamber?

              when you start explaining ****.... it just further adds to questions.
              Originally posted by handsome1-1 View Post
              PEDs monster....
              Originally posted by geokis88 View Post
              JMM is loving those PED's.
              I think people are blowing way out of proportion. They look at the third fight with Pacquiao, saw that he did MUCH better than everyone at the time expected, so automatically they suspect he's on something while neglecting that it's the styles.

              Marquez meets Pacquiao for a fourth fight and once he knocks Pacquiao out the excuses just rain down. Marquez looked as he's always looked. Giving Pacquiao fits and hanging in there as he always does. What? He can't knock Pacquiao down without people suspecting things? People point at "the punch" and use that support their accusations.

              If you really wanted to have a solid base of accusations, you'd look at several of his fights and go, "Well gee, How can he do 'X' thing so consistently even though the average athlete can't?"

              If you're judging solely by his fights with Pacquiao, it becomes a flimsy argument. Marquez looked as he's always had against Pac. Who's to say Pacquiao didn't go down because his wars finally caught up with him? And another thing: it's not black and white. People act like it was a dominating performance by Marquez from start to finish when it wasn't. I had Marquez winning only the third round where e scored the knockdown, and I could see some people MAYBE giving him the fourth round but Pacquiao was clearly winning the fight including the sixth round before he knocked out.

              I will admit, however, that the fact that Marquez got himself out of drug testing for the Bradley fight does not sit well with me.

              I like both fighters but I never root against Bradley.
              Last edited by TintaBoricua; 09-25-2013, 12:33 PM.

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                #77
                MarPEDs explaining why he looks like Incredible Hulk. ha ha ha ha ha!

                Hilarious!

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by SoggyLungs
                  and at age 39....... all of a sudden getting bigger and stronger at 39/40 years old after hiring a steroid chemist is highly suspect....
                  JMM is a true "G" he KO Manny on pure techneic, no PED's, no luck nothing of that sort....so to all those butt hurt losers (Pacfarts) get over it!! I know Marquez kill the Floyd-Pac fight, gave May yet another excuse not to fight the midget on steroids and thats what got all of you pacfarts butt hurt.....LOL long live the "MAN" JMM.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by FloydvsPac View Post
                    P.S. Yes...Pac is su****ious during 2009....
                    Well there you go. Even if Marquez used PEDs (which you have no proof of) then it is karma for Pac since he is su****ious too.

                    But the fact remains that Marquez has never failed any of the commission's tests.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                      But the fact remains that Marquez has never failed any of the commission's tests.
                      That comment is just towing the propaganda line and hiding behind a flawed system for selfish reasons. Lance Armstrong and many others used that old excuse.

                      Commission testing is a joke. Neither Marquez, Pac nor Floyd failed commission tests. But Marquez without a doubt has the most compelling evidence against him. Even if Pacquiao was su****ious during 2009, he was NOT juiced against Marquez in any of their fights. But most can argue convincingly that Marquez was juiced the last TWO fights against Pacquiao. For their fifth fight, Roach, Ariza and Pacquiao knew that Marquez was on PEDs and still faced him.

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