Comments Thread For: Team Mayweather Pounds Away on Catch Weight Claims

[koboy]

Floyd doesn't get credit from posters like you primarily because you don't like him and can't stand that he is still wininng.

How do you know I don't like Floyd? I'm actually a big, big fan of his style. He is a beautiful boxer to watch, one of the best. The way he sets up his punches and controls the fight, watch the 4th and 8th Round of the Hatton fight and tell me that wasn't pure genius. To dominate one of the best thinking fighters in Marquez, although at a catchweight, is an incredible display of the sweet science. He is one of the most gifted fighters ever.

Sadly, though, after the JLC fights, he became more concerned about the "0" than challenging himself. Jimmy Bredahl, ffs.

And now the hypocrisy with the catchweight.

Anyway, Floyd complains about not getting credit because deep down inside he knows that he cherrypicked his way to the top of the heap. There is nagging doubt in his mind and that is why it bothers him so much.

Floyd: "I never get credit for me wins! Waaaaahhhh!"

Then fight Canelo at 154 or shut the hell up!

I will enjoy how Floyd will dismantle Canelo round by round. Another sweet display of the sweet science by one of the best of this era. But credit? Hell no. He said it himself, "Cotto is undefeated because one of his loses came from a catchweight." So no credit for you Floyd. Sorry.

Pacquiao is the foreman of the cherry orchards, but Floyd owns the land.

[richardt]

You're making it seem as if Schaefer and Haymon wrote the contract, and signed it for Mayweather and Canelo man. There's not some big conspiracy going on here. Schaefer and Haymon, representing both sides respectfully, both laid down the ground for what it would take for each side to be happy. Schaefer most likely expressed Canelo's wishes, and Haymon did for Mayweather. They drafted initial proposals, then presented them to each side. This happens all the time. Why are you acting as though Schaefer and Haymon somehow twisted the contract to completely side with Mayweather and then forced Canelo to sign it or something? They simply established the ground, the presented it to each side.. Each side expressed their pros and cons, and they ironed it out TOGETHER, then SIGNED... Chill out man, Canelo knows what he's in for, he agreed to EVERYTHING, and signed.. So did Mayweather. THere's no conspiracy going on here.

Who said ANYTHING about those two siding with Mayweather??????? And a Proposal STILL includes all the information looked over by Canelo's Manager, or both he and Canelo which means they were part of the negotiations and responded with their own desires/demands into the fold because they are THE ONES that have to agree on the details!!!!!!!

Of course there is no conspiracy!! No one is that ***ing ****** to believe that Canelo and his manager were never given ANY details of Mayweather's demands/requests because they have to know the details and that is why team canelo knew that Floyd requested the lower weight, the same thing that Pac did where Floyd then went on to say "I am not that type of guy, I want a guy at his natural weight" It's very obvious 152 was settled on because Mayweather did not want Canelo at 154 or THEY WOULD HAVE AGREED ON 154 TO BEGIN WITH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The ONLY reason why the fight is not being fought at 154 is because Team Mayweather wanted the lower weight, DUH!!!!!

[IronMike86]

LOL ok, you're overlooking the point. We get it, you feel that mayweather said "CW or not fight." I simply disagree. I feel an "intermediate weight" was offered, which is EXACTLY what Canelo's trainer is quoted as saying, and that Mayweather agreed. It's simple.

Does this mean that Mayweather didn't deep down inside WANT a CW all along? Who knows. As a competitor though, of COURSE you want every advantage you can get, especially when facing a guy who's going to out-weigh you by close to 20 lbs come fightnight. Would it have been badass if Mayweather would've said "**** the catchweight, I want him at 154!" Yea.. I ain't gonna deny that would've been awesome, and probably would've hushed some of the haters. Some. Oh well though. A CW was offered, and he took it. He could've very well demanded a lower weight than 152, like 150, like (not gonna mention any names) did in the past.

Either way, what's done is done. I keep saying this, but we should be glad that this fight is even happening. I remember not quite long ago people were saying there's no way Mayweather would take on this kid because he's too big of a risk. Well, now it's happening. Both fighters deserve all the credit in the world for making this fight happen, because in all reality, their pride and egos could've very well gotten in the way as do with so many other potential mega-fights. 10 more days and we have the biggest fight of the decade, and perhaps the greatest CARD in a decade.

The fact of the matter is, both fighters are happy with the terms, the money, the venue, the clauses, the glove size, the ring size, etc. etc. etc.. Noone's complaining except for fans who always need to find something to be unhappy with. I'm just fired up that it's happening, because I, even as a Mayweather fan, did NOT expect Canelo to be his next opponent.. At all. I'm stoked.

[Jack Napier]

the catchweight doesn't matter
but Floyd can't spin his way out of the hole he dug himself
don't cry about it then do it yourself, it's that simple
Alvarez is an easy fight for him, based mostly on size
Alvarez is too slow to do anything, the catchweight wasn't necessary

[HeroBando]

LOL ok, you're overlooking the point. We get it, you feel that mayweather said "CW or not fight." I simply disagree. I feel an "intermediate weight" was offered, which is EXACTLY what Canelo's trainer is quoted as saying, and that Mayweather agreed. It's simple.

Does this mean that Mayweather didn't deep down inside WANT a CW all along? Who knows. As a competitor though, of COURSE you want every advantage you can get, especially when facing a guy who's going to out-weigh you by close to 20 lbs come fightnight. Would it have been badass if Mayweather would've said "**** the catchweight, I want him at 154!" Yea.. I ain't gonna deny that would've been awesome, and probably would've quite some of the haters. Oh well though. A CW was offered, and he took it. He could've very well demanded a lower weight than 152, like 150, like (not gonna mention any names) did in the past.

Either way, what's done is done. I keep saying this, but we should be glad that this fight is even happening. I remember not quite long ago people were saying there's no way Mayweather would take on this kid because he's too big of a risk. Well, not it's happening. Both fighters deserve all the credit in the world for making this fight happen, because in all reality, their pride and egos could've very well gotten in the way as do with so many other potential mega-fights. 10 more days and we have the biggest fight of the decade, and perhaps the greatest CARD in a decade.

The fact of the matter is, both fighters are happy with the terms, the money, the venue, the clauses, the glove size, the ring size, etc. etc. etc.. Noone's complaining except for fans who always need to find something to be unhappy with. I'm just fired up that it's happening, because I, even as a Mayweather fan, did NOT expect Canelo to be his next opponent.. At all. I'm stoked.

His trainer was quoted saying that was in response to Floyd demanding 147. FAIL

[uniquehump]

I don't see a problem with a catchweight when I get to see two great fighters battle it out. The catchweight to me is more in Canelo's favor as a fight between a 147 and 154 fighter is usually at 150. Canelo is being asked to come down 2 pounds from his USUAL weight and Floyd is asking to go up 5 pounds from his USUAL weight. I honestly wish this wasn't for a belt, but that was what was negotiated. Team Canelo is on record for asking for the fight at 150, but it was agreed to at 152. Team Mayweather is on record for wanting the fight at 147, but again it was agreed to at 152. Canelo, not Team Canelo, but Canelo does not have a problem with the weight. There is no fight night weight clause and I doubt that if Canelo comes to the "weigh in" overweight that it would cause for the fight to be cancelled.

I will admit that I'm a Mayweather fan. I'm usually a homer anyways and growing up a couple hours away from him and being some months apart in age, I naturally want to see him succeed, but i'm a boxing fan first and could care less if he loses, I just want to see two great boxers battle it out because it's hard to get those great epic battles without the catchweights. I would like to see GGG vs. Canelo or GGG vs. Ward, or Floyd vs. Garcia, or PAC vs Matthysee or Gamboa vs. PAC/Broner. The point is that there are plenty of fights out there to be made and each fighter may feel as if they should fight at their own weight, but if the money is right and there is a demand for it, the catchweight solves everything.

[WESS]

they mad Alvarez threw out the offer of a catchweight.. lol while Floyd said ok.

[koboy]

I don't see a problem with a catchweight when I get to see two great fighters battle it out.

I think the issue with fans is not the catchweight but the hypocrisy with which PBF has dealt with fighters fighting catchweight fights, specifically Pacquiao's fight with Cotto.

I could care less about catchweights, it's not new and have been done before by greats, such as, Sugar Ray Leonard.

Catchweight, alright. Hypocrisy, ***** move.

[mathed]

You fought Cotto at 154, now you are fighting for the 154 belt at a CW of 152. Your dad wanted him at 147 and according to you, size doesn't matter. So why is the fight at 152 instead of 154?

[IronMike86]

His trainer was quoted saying that was in response to Floyd demanding 147. FAIL

And, AGAIN, ALL of this is coming from Canelo's trainer. Believe what you want man. I had a ton of stuff I posted regarding the fight, and all you respond to is that? Anyway, if to answer your post, if Floyd was so adamant about fighting at 147, he would've chose an even larger CW, like the typical 150 lbs that we see so many WW do to 154s. 152, IMO, is a compromise. An intermediate weight that both fighters are happy with.

I don't get all the hate. Is Floyd displaying some hypocrisy by accepting a catchweight? YES. Does it give him some crazy advantage come fight night? HELL NO. Canelo is only in his early 20s, shedding 2 additional lbs is not this enormous burden that's going to drain him, have him vomiting, and his unable to accept fluids ala DLH against Pacquiao. Canelo still has the advantage come fight night.

All that should come out of all this b.s is that some of what Floyd says about his opponents, and nemesis is b.s.. He says a lot of **** to get under people's skin, and it works. Accepting the catchweight opened him up to criticism, and displayed some hypocrisy. We get that. I admit that. But everybody that's magnifying it as some sort of problem, conspiracy, or gigantic advantage for Floyd is just delusional and just finding another excuse to ***** and moan