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    #81
    Originally posted by techliam View Post
    Obviously a list designed to just get as much on there as possible, but even then ive bolded the ones that you can't 'check' for definite, or really have no meaning at all.

    Fan pleasing style? The guy isn't exactly a crowd pleaser. This really is a personal opinion, and the majority here I bet would disagree with this one. Bradley and excitement don't often go hand in hand unless he's being beat to a pulp.

    He ducked Khan. Argue the technicalities about it all you want. I still don't think he can beat Khan. You need power to beat him, at least a little bit, otherwise you'll make him confident. Like above, you can't put Bradley and power in the same sentence, unless you're saying he has none.

    This granite chin thing is interesting, as he doesn't have a granite chin. He has been knocked down, wobbled, the lot. He has great determination to get up and/or stay up, but if you land hard on Bradley, chances are he'll wobble about, as he did many times against Provodnikov. Most fighters would have been stopped if they same happened to them in that fight.

    He was a 'champion' at 140 (title holder) and is a 'champion' (title holder) at 147, sure. At 147, he was gifted his title from Pacquiao. He hasn't been a true champion in the sense best of the division, but I don't expect him to personally. Not trying to diminish him here, just hate the word 'champion' been thrown round.

    Surely most professional fighters are 'professional'. What does this even mean? Professional in the way he conducts himself? Mayweather doesn't do that. So what is this?

    High Ring IQ is great, because the Provodnikov fight showed otherwise. Why did he engage with him after being hit? That isn't high ring IQ at all. That's why he was sent wobbling around the ring.
    fan pleasing style ultimately is an opinion.
    It's not ducking if he chased a larger purse against a harder opponent.
    If you agree that lesser fighters would go down with those shots from Ruslan then you agree he has a granite chin.
    Champion is champion.
    Professional here I just meant he isn't irresponsible with his body between fights and seems dedicated and humble.
    Just because Tim is a warrior that will go toe to toe with Rulsan doesn't mean he has low ring IQ, for example in the Manny fight he was able to adapt and change his strategy in the middle rounds and was successful.

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      #82
      Originally posted by El Angel View Post
      I seem to be one of the few that doesn't think he P4P top 10 material.
      How is that not a top 10 p4p resume? And undefeated?

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        #83
        Sooo many b it ch es on this site.

        Tims a great fighter and he is a nice guy. He ducks NO ONE !!

        Many talk shi t but run when they see me!! HeltaH Skeltah

        WWBCC

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          #84
          Originally posted by rambov View Post
          Sooo many b it ch es on this site.

          Tims a great fighter and he is a nice guy. He ducks NO ONE !!

          Many talk shi t but run when they see me!! HeltaH Skeltah

          WWBCC
          Agreed. Likeable all around, and a warrior with heart.

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            #85
            Dude is a badass and works harder than just about anyone else in the sport. He's already got it.

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              #86
              although I am rooting for JMM, if Bradley beats Juan convincingly which I doubt, but at the least fight his heart out, probably he will gain a lot of respect...

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                #87
                Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post
                How is that not a top 10 p4p resume? And undefeated?
                I'll never give him credit for beating Pacquiao, regardless of the "official" result. He lost that fight. He was injured, but he lost clearly and to my eyes, relatively wide. Then against Provodnikov, a strong but limited puncher, he was almost stopped because he chose to make a point. Showed tremendous heart and stamina, but that doesn't make you P4P. P4P should also heavily reflect current form, about as much as resume.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by El Angel View Post
                  I'll never give him credit for beating Pacquiao, regardless of the "official" result. He lost that fight. He was injured, but he lost clearly and to my eyes, relatively wide. Then against Provodnikov, a strong but limited puncher, he was almost stopped because he chose to make a point. Showed tremendous heart and stamina, but that doesn't make you P4P. P4P should also heavily reflect current form, about as much as resume.
                  P4P should always reflect Resume bro..If that was the case guy's like 3G Matt's Garcia Mike Garcia Rigo would all be taking spots on the P4P list..Knocking out guy's who's worked awful hard to get there by putting together very good resumes..I do think you current form plays into it,but Resume should be the number 1 factor..After further thought,noway Rigo belongs on the P4P list..He maybe knocking at the door,but dude has like 12 wins..His body of work is weak overall..

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View Post
                    P4P should always reflect Resume bro..If that was the case guy's like 3G Matt's Garcia Mike Garcia Rigo would all be taking spots on the P4P list..Knocking out guy's who's worked awful hard to get there by putting together very good resumes..I do think you current form plays into it,but Resume should be the number 1 factor..After further thought,noway Rigo belongs on the P4P list..He maybe knocking at the door,but dude has like 12 wins..His body of work is weak overall..
                    I've always been a bit reluctant putting Rigo top 10 p4p.

                    Bradley might make it because of his consistency over a longer period of time.

                    To answer the original question, I didn't pick any of the options because I'm not the WAR Bradley type of fan but neither am I a hater. I respect Bradley, think he has decent handspeed, good footwork and decent skills, added with a tonne of heart but he still needs that defining win. He has had opportunities, the Khan fight would have been huge but he lost it there, then he had Alexander who was just looking for a way out and then came Pacquiao, which was just horrible judging.

                    Bradley gets a 4th opportunity here, if he beats JMM legitimately then he gets even more respect from me and most other fans. He puts himself firmly into the p4p and in for fights against Floyd, Pac, Cotto!

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Southpawology View Post
                      Boring fighter: Check

                      Ducked Khan: Check

                      Overrated: Check

                      Gift decisions vs Pac and Provondokov: Check

                      Cant sell out his local high school gym: Check
                      I got a laugh out of this one

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