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    #21
    Mayweather takes him into deep waters, and Canelo's stamina is questionable, and that's being nice. From the 5th or 6th round till the end, he only fought hard for 1/3 of the round against Trout. Now he could do that to Trout, who's a very very good fighter, but no Mayweather.

    Mayweather is much more accurate than Trout, and won't be nearly as easy to hit. Canelo will attempt to fight in the center of the ring early, maybe the first round or two, and he'll realize his "boxing" isn't going to get him anywhere. The next 2-3 rounds, he'll attempt to pressure Mayweather, having some success, but also getting countered and tagged too. I think the fight could be 3-2 Mayweather or so after 5 rounds. Than I think Floyd shuts him out the last 7 rounds or so. I see a 117-111 type of decision for Floyd.

    Once Canelo starts to tire, Floyd will be hitting him at will, and I could envision him walking Canelo down by the middle and late parts of the fight.

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      #22
      He's young, strong, well balanced and he has a major strength advantage over mayweather.

      Anything can happen in boxing. One punch can change the fight.

      That's the reason nobody can predict what will happen in the Floyd Pacquiao fight. It doesn't matter how much better floyd is. If pac can land, and then go on the attack when mayweather's dazed, he can hurt mayweather pretty badly.

      Marquez can survive the onslaught and fight fire with fire because he has more heart than anybody. That doesn't mean mayweather can.

      I know why Floyd didn't want the pacquiao fight. Because Pac is too much of a risk. He's never faced anyone with Pacquiao's offense, explosiveness and pressure.

      If Pacquiao looks good against rios, then I think he beats this older mayweather without a doubt.
      Last edited by DARKSEID; 06-27-2013, 09:43 PM.

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        #23
        Canelo looked bewildered by Trout at times during his last bout. Not to mention he looked gassed by round 5.

        I give him little to no chance.

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          #24
          If Canelo had a good chance of winning Floyd would never have given him the fight...but as others have said he does have a punchers chance.

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            #25
            Alot of people think he actually has a chance. We call those people casual fans.

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              #26
              Sept 14th a new King will be crowned

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                #27
                Mayweather boxes circles around this hype job. Couldn’t think of a least deserving fighter to get paid million of dollars. Maybe Berto actually

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Gatling View Post
                  This is what bugs me whenever Mayweather or a top fighter signs a fight that fans think they won't. But Floyd is probably the best case of it. It happened with Castillo rematch, Mosley, Cotto, Guerero. Even Baldomir!

                  It's either a pre-emptive "Oh, hes gonna duck!" then when he signs it's "Oh, fighter B has no chance anyways"

                  Just enjoy the fight night.
                  I'll start off by acknowledging that Floyd is the best pound for pound talent in boxing.

                  With that being said, it bugs me to see fans who believe Floyd has taken fights were he has a chance of losing. Floyd didn't pick Canelo because it's a risk for reward type of fight. He picked Canelo because he didn't look impressive against Trout. And before Canelo garners any more experience to the point were he becomes a real "threat". Floyd, in a bold move to fool the common public and fans, chose to take the young star out of the equation before he gets any better. So when Canelo reaches his prime, Floyd would be there to say "Oh, I already beat him".

                  During his career Floyd has been very savvy in rising up to stardom. He learned well from Bob Arum on how to develop as a fighter, and later to become a star without risking too much.

                  If we take a look at Floyd's career, those who really know it's history, could see Floyd avoided risks (with the exception of Jose Luis Castillo at 135) as he climbed through the P4P ranks.

                  Taking a look back, since 130lb Floyd avoided real challenges. In the back then loaded 130 division, Floyd was setup to fight the weakest and then aging WBC champion Genaro Hernandez (RIP). Meanwhile a unification match with the likes of a young and dangerous Diego Corrales (IBF), a prime and undefeated Joel Casamayor (WBA) and the back then undefeated ko king Acelino "Popo" Freitas (WBO) were never made. Now, let me make it clear that many would point out that he defended against Diego Corrales. BUT some seem to forget that Corrales was facing "domestic violence" charges and was going to be sent to "prison" after the fight with Floyd. Kind of the right time for Floyd's team to make a move. (Moves like this would become the standard)

                  After Floyd's tenure at 130lb. Floyd stepped up to the plate and faced the FIRST and LAST real threat on his career. A fighter who he fought on even terms, in their primes and without any advantage. That was against Jose Luis Castillo. Those who remember the fight, know how that end up (CONTROVERSIAL). In a rematch he truly proved his talent and skill and won easily. Unfortunately, that was the last time Floyd would ever take a fight on even terms without an advantage.

                  After, Floyd became MONEY. Went 140 defeated an over the hill Gatti, never fought Tyszu. Went to 147 fought an over matched Baldomir never faced a prime Cotto, Williams or Margarito. Faced DLH became a household name, took on Hatton on his terms, fooled Juan Manuel Marquez to have a weight advantage, beat and old Cotto and Mosley, and two blown up Jr.Welterweights. Never fought Pac, where a 50/50 purse was reasonable. The drug test, the lions share, the DRAMA were all tantrums to seek an advantage. In the end, the fight was never made and now is almost useless.

                  Sooo, did Floyd have the talent to beat all of the fighters he never faced or the ones that weren't in their primes or without any advantage? He probably would have... But the clouds of DOUBT would never end and in the end he may have fooled many but there will always be those he can't fool to easy.

                  BTW, Canelo has a punchers chance. He could really hurt Floyd but that's only if he could land flush and at this stage it's complicated. Point is Canelo is not ready to face Floyd. He may win some rounds ala Cotto and Guerrero, could probably make it interesting and to a certain point seem like he could win but Floyd will adjust and take it home to another UD.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by MR.PLANAS View Post
                    I'll start off by acknowledging that Floyd is the best pound for pound talent in boxing.

                    With that being said, it bugs me to see fans who believe Floyd has taken fights were he has a chance of losing. Floyd didn't pick Canelo because it's a risk for reward type of fight. He picked Canelo because he didn't look impressive against Trout. And before Canelo garners any more experience to the point were he becomes a real "threat". Floyd, in a bold move to fool the common public and fans, chose to take the young star out of the equation before he gets any better. So when Canelo reaches his prime, Floyd would be there to say "Oh, I already beat him".

                    During his career Floyd has been very savvy in rising up to stardom. He learned well from Bob Arum on how to develop as a fighter, and later to become a star without risking too much.

                    If we take a look at Floyd's career, those who really know it's history, could see Floyd avoided risks (with the exception of Jose Luis Castillo at 135) as he climbed through the P4P ranks.

                    Taking a look back, since 130lb Floyd avoided real challenges. In the back then loaded 130 division, Floyd was setup to fight the weakest and then aging WBC champion Genaro Hernandez (RIP). Meanwhile a unification match with the likes of a young and dangerous Diego Corrales (IBF), a prime and undefeated Joel Casamayor (WBA) and the back then undefeated ko king Acelino "Popo" Freitas (WBO) were never made. Now, let me make it clear that many would point out that he defended against Diego Corrales. BUT some seem to forget that Corrales was facing "domestic violence" charges and was going to be sent to "prison" after the fight with Floyd. Kind of the right time for Floyd's team to make a move. (Moves like this would become the standard)

                    After Floyd's tenure at 130lb. Floyd stepped up to the plate and faced the FIRST and LAST real threat on his career. A fighter who he fought on even terms, in their primes and without any advantage. That was against Jose Luis Castillo. Those who remember the fight, know how that end up (CONTROVERSIAL). In a rematch he truly proved his talent and skill and won easily. Unfortunately, that was the last time Floyd would ever take a fight on even terms without an advantage.

                    After, Floyd became MONEY. Went 140 defeated an over the hill Gatti, never fought Tyszu. Went to 147 fought an over matched Baldomir never faced a prime Cotto, Williams or Margarito. Faced DLH became a household name, took on Hatton on his terms, fooled Juan Manuel Marquez to have a weight advantage, beat and old Cotto and Mosley, and two blown up Jr.Welterweights. Never fought Pac, where a 50/50 purse was reasonable. The drug test, the lions share, the DRAMA were all tantrums to seek an advantage. In the end, the fight was never made and now is almost useless.

                    Sooo, did Floyd have the talent to beat all of the fighters he never faced or the ones that weren't in their primes or without any advantage? He probably would have... But the clouds of DOUBT would never end and in the end he may have fooled many but there will always be those he can't fool to easy.

                    BTW, Canelo has a punchers chance. He could really hurt Floyd but that's only if he could land flush and at this stage it's complicated. Point is Canelo is not ready to face Floyd. He may win some rounds ala Cotto and Guerrero, could probably make it interesting and to a certain point seem like he could win but Floyd will adjust and take it home to another UD.
                    Too much revisionism going on here. Casamayor never wanted the fight and only wanted it once Floyd became a star and he was struggling with the likes of Santa Cruz.

                    Tszyu?! Tszyu was in hospital more than he was in the ring when Mayweather Not to mention they were on different networks anyways, and Tszyu chose the bigger money option in Hatton anyways before promptly retiring right after.

                    Your timelines desperately need work.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Gatling View Post
                      Too much revisionism going on here. Casamayor never wanted the fight and only wanted it once Floyd became a star and he was struggling with the likes of Santa Cruz.

                      Tszyu?! Tszyu was in hospital more than he was in the ring when Mayweather Not to mention they were on different networks anyways, and Tszyu chose the bigger money option in Hatton anyways before promptly retiring right after.

                      Your timelines desperately need work.
                      Casamayor never wanted the fight? Do you have evidence of such claim? I seriuosly doubt Casamayor or even Freitas would avoid Floyd considering Corrales, Casamayor and Freitas fought each other.

                      Yet you forget to mention how Floyd's team took the Corrales fight when he was accused of domestic violence and soon after going to prison.

                      BTW Casamayor struggling with Santa Cruz? That was in 2007!!! I'm talking about 2000-2001 when Floyd, Corrales, Casamayor and Freitas were champions @ 130. Point is, Floyd didn't seek to unify.

                      As for Tszyu, Floyd had a chance to go up and face Tszyu. But Floyd being Floyd, waited for Tszyu to age. To make his move @ 140.

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