Comments Thread For: Froch Feels Only Lennox Lewis, Not Calzaghe, Tops Legacy

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Froch is too full of himself. He's really tooting his own horn as they say. I can't wait for Ward to box his ears off in the rematch.

That really doesn't hurt Frochs stock imo. Ward is a special talent, arguably the best fighter in the world. When did Calzaghe or Hatton ever topple the best fighter in the world, or ever look like they would have a chance(in fact Hatton had a chance against Mayweather and I don't think anyone would pick Calzaghe over prime Roy Jones). Froch is clearly the greatest fighter from the UK in the last 20ish years excluding Lewis.

[D-MiZe]

Chavez-Taylor's a very similar example but not the same because there was only 1 second left and he was on his feet.

That said, the same logic applies in both. Both Taylor and Taylor ( ) were stopped and lost the fights. It doesn't matter who was winning and who was losing at the time.

Damn it, Dan!




Do you know of any fights where the opponent was down by at least 10 rounds going into the 12th and won via stoppage? If not that extreme, what's the most extreme you know of?

[Weebler I]

Hindsight or not, the Taylor fight was a fight he was losing. I don't really think you can take too much credit for a fight that he was 4 pts down on (going off judges, don't have a score for that fight saved).

It was a fight Froch won from the 6th round onwards. Taylor was good for nothing in the second half of the fight.

If Taylor had remained standing the worst Froch would have deserved was a draw but he didn't let it come to that.

It was a bloody good KO win in his opponent's backyard imo.

[IronDanHamza]

Damn it, Dan!




Do you know of any fights where the opponent was down by at least 10 rounds going into the 12th and won via stoppage? If not that extreme, what's the most extreme you know of?

Not really what you're looking for but an example is Graham-Jackson.

Only 4 rounds but Graham won every round easily but that doesn't make a difference because Jackson only needed one shot and when it landed he was on the canvass for what seemed like a good 3 weeks.

Boxing is a sport where one punch can change everything. A fighter could win every second of ever round and then get knocked out cold in the last second of the last round and it doesn't make a shread of difference, the outcome is the outcome, a KO loss.

[SAJ10]

Can't agree with this.

Froch has never been no:1 at his weight.

Joe was two weight Ring Champ.

Compare their best wins - Hopkins at LHW, in America. Carl doesn't have anything at LHW.

His best win is against a shopworn Kessler, but he's also lost to Kessler.

Joe beat a prime, undefeated Kessler. Calzaghe also never got owned or dominated by anybody.

I'm sorry how can a guy that's never been no:1 in one division think his legacy outranks a guy that was no: in 2 division's, just coz he had a few tough fights on the road.

Beat Hopkins and Ward Froch and you'll surpass Calzaghe in my eyes, otherwise, no chance.

[IronDanHamza]

It was a fight Froch won from the 6th round onwards. Taylor was good for nothing in the second half of the fight.

If Taylor had remained standing the worst Froch would have deserved was a draw but he didn't let it come to that.

It was a bloody good KO win in his opponent's backyard imo.

That's probably Froch's defining moment IMO.

Imagine if he'd lost that fight? Would he have been included in the Super Six? Most likely not.

He was losing, in his opponents backyard, been on the floor for the first time, he needed a KO, he came out and nothing but pure heart, desire, will to win got him a brutal KO victory which turned out to be the start of an amazing run.

It's chilling really, looking back.

[crold1]

Back to back hardest fight in the game!!!!! F##k no!!!

Pascal - average at best
Taylor - past it and was beating him until run out gas
Dirrel - what has he done before or since?? (close fight)
Kessler - beat him were IMO calzaghe would of never lost
Abraham - MW king poor record at SMW
Johnson - stand in but never a challenge really
Ward - got dominated inside and out for 10 out of 12 rounds
Bute - decent win but wasnt same fighter whos been fighting in his backyard
Mack - waste of time
Kessler 2 - decent win but kessler is cleary finished

Im froch fan but lets be REALISTIC!!!! Hes NOT a great!!!

LOL...that's part of the whole point. This has all been consecutive. You can nitpick a name here or there, but you've got close to five straight years of goign for it to look at. This would be an outstanding resume spread across a whole career. He has done it all in a row with one tune up fight, and taking on most of these guys while they were HIGHLY regarded.

There have been a couple similar runs in recent years. Corrales from Casa I to Clottey; Mares right now. Some might scoff, but I think you can make a case that Floyd, fight for fight, has been right there too since Oscar; the inactivity takes away from it and brings it down a peg. It's not that common and most guys do a sort of one on/one off thing when they fight more than once a year. It's old school and astoundingly bold in this era.

[crold1]

That's probably Froch's defining moment IMO.

Imagine if he'd lost that fight? Would he have been included in the Super Six? Most likely not.

He was losing, in his opponents backyard, been on the floor for the first time, he needed a KO, he came out and nothing but pure heart, desire, will to win got him a brutal KO victory which turned out to be the start of an amazing run.

It's chilling really, looking back.

I had the Taylor fight one point apart going into the final round. It was MUCH closer than most media seemed to be seeing it as they loved Taylor's spot flurries over the grinding Froch was doing. More used to Froch now, I'd be surprised if the fight was perceived the same today. It was VERY similar to Cotto-Margarito in the way that Froch was winning rounds earlier in the fight than he was on the cards, slowly breaking Taylor down. Awesome performance and fight.

[D-MiZe]

Not really what you're looking for but an example is Graham-Jackson.

Only 4 rounds but Graham won every round easily but that doesn't make a difference because Jackson only needed one shot and when it landed he was on the canvass for what seemed like a good 3 weeks.

Boxing is a sport where one punch can change everything. A fighter could win every second of ever round and then get knocked out cold in the last second of the last round and it doesn't make a shread of difference, the outcome is the outcome, a KO loss.

Yea, Graham-Jackon was the only fight I could think of.

I know what you're saying, all that matters at the end of the day is the result. But the result takes 36 minutes or some times less to come about, it's what happens in that time that should also be taken into consideration.

I can see the marks from where we started, we'll just have to leave it at this.

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You have to love Froch's attitude.