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Rarely do I see so many excuses being made for a fighter, that would be Fury, who obviously sucks. And did someone really say that Fury moves better than Wlad? I have to say I am confused because I don't see it. So my thought is that they were possibly referring to Vladimir Guerrero?Last edited by Ravens Fan; 04-25-2013, 01:03 PM.
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Originally posted by $Natedatpkid$ View PostLMAO Here goes Haye cherry picking again
Originally posted by The Weebler II View PostWorth a watch if you're interested in a breakdown of Fury v Haye/Klitschko, Dwyer picks Fury against Haye and Pulev because of his footspeed allowing him to get in close and dominate.
Originally posted by The Weebler II View PostThat was precisely Dwyer's point, Fury isn't built like the average HW. Once he gets inside he's so big and heavy that he wears his opponent down.
Granted, his power isn't all that - against heavies, but we saw what it does to blown up cruiserweights.
Originally posted by techliam View PostIf Cunningham could drop Fury, I can't imagine what Haye could do..
Originally posted by paulf View PostHaye kills Fury. I want to see Fury-Price!
Originally posted by The Weebler II View PostWlad doesn't move like Fury, nor does Chisora. What is Haye going to do when Fury gets inside?
We already know, he's going to fall to the deck and claim Fury was leaning on him like he did against Wlad.
Originally posted by The Weebler II View PostChisora walked through 5 rounds of flush Haye combinations. Haye has power at HW in the same way Froch has power at 168, it's good but it's not great. If Fury gets KO'd it'll either be though accumulation or a dodgy chin.
Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View PostHe;s got an iron chin and walked through 12 rounds of Fury and Vitali....he didn't get half way against Haye.
Regarding Wlad not moving like Fury, he moves better. Fury moves around more but he is heavier on his feet and clumsy, Wlad is also faster in terms of foot and hand speed, and reflexes.
Fury brings nothing to the table that will trouble Haye, nothing. He's tall but his power is average, he's slow, he has a poor chin and his defence is very leaky.
Your dislike of Haye is clouding your judgement.
Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View PostHe moves more, but not faster from my view...and that's Wlad in his later 30's. Wlad at 24 was much faster and lighter on his feet, he's still lighter on his feet and quicker, he just doesn;t dance around.
I never understood people talking about Fury being fast as I have never seen it. I've always seen a big lump who is heavy on his feet and clumsy...with crap defence and no chin.
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Originally posted by andrewa1 View PostHaye Fury would be a great, interesting fight. Cunningham has different attributes then Haye, much less power, but more savy and arguably speed, and Haye is even smaller and chinnier than Cunningham. Fury seems to take more care when he is against someone who could knock him out. And Haye has struggled against huge fighters. This would compare closest to the Haye Valuev fight, Haye fought timidly and until he staggered Valuev in the 12th it was effectively an even fight. Fury has much better power, speed, and combination punching ability than Valuev, albiet is smaller with a more questionable chin. Based on last performance, I’d give Haye a slight edge because of his power and the question mark of Fury’s chin, but people need to stop overstating what Fury’s knockdowns mean. Its a question mark, but no more. Ali was knocked down twice by lesser opponents at this stage of his career and went on to prove he had one of the greatest chins in history.
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