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    #61
    Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
    That's what Cunningham tried to do. I don't believe Haye is so effective at maintaining the distance that Fury wouldn't be able to get inside. Whether he can take Haye's punches coming in is another question.

    Another big question is what the ref does once Fury gets inside, does he pull them apart or let Fury go to work?



    lol Wlad wasn't pulling Haye the whole way to the deck. It was clear tactic on Haye's part - and a clever one if a little cowardly.
    You're are letting your dislike of Haye cloud your judgement, as soon as Haye catches him coming iand feels the power Fury's fight plan would change (if he doesn't get stopped by the punch).

    Wlad pulled Hayes head down and leaned on his back on almost every occasion they got into a clinch. It was Wlad's plan to prevent Haye landing anything when getting tied up.

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      #62
      Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
      Chisora walked through 5 rounds of flush Haye combinations. Haye has power at HW in the same way Froch has power at 168, it's good but it's not great. If Fury gets KO'd it'll either be though accumulation or a dodgy chin.
      He;s got an iron chin and walked through 12 rounds of Fury and Vitali....he didn't get half way against Haye.

      Regarding Wlad not moving like Fury, he moves better. Fury moves around more but he is heavier on his feet and clumsy, Wlad is also faster in terms of foot and hand speed, and reflexes.

      Fury brings nothing to the table that will trouble Haye, nothing. He's tall but his power is average, he's slow, he has a poor chin and his defence is very leaky.

      Your dislike of Haye is clouding your judgement.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Own3d View Post
        You're are letting your dislike of Haye cloud your judgement, as soon as Haye catches him coming iand feels the power Fury's fight plan would change (if he doesn't get stopped by the punch).
        Chisora's gameplan didn't change on feeling Haye's power. Audley is the only guy at HW that Haye has stopped like that and it took him 15+ unanswered punches to get him down. Haye's power at heavyweight is nothing special, its his speed that sets him apart.

        Wlad pulled Hayes head down and leaned on his back on almost every occasion they got into a clinch. It was Wlad's plan to prevent Haye landing anything when getting tied up.
        He didn't pull him so violently that Haye was forced to the deck. Haye went down like Suarez.

        Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
        Regarding Wlad not moving like Fury, he moves better. Fury moves around more but he is heavier on his feet and clumsy, Wlad is also faster in terms of foot and hand speed, and reflexes.
        I disagree. Fury is the more mobile fighter in terms of moving around the ring.
        Last edited by Weebler I; 04-25-2013, 11:53 AM.

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          #64
          Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
          I disagree. Fury is the more mobile fighter in terms of moving around the ring.
          He moves more, but not faster from my view...and that's Wlad in his later 30's. Wlad at 24 was much faster and lighter on his feet, he's still lighter on his feet and quicker, he just doesn;t dance around.

          I never understood people talking about Fury being fast as I have never seen it. I've always seen a big lump who is heavy on his feet and clumsy...with crap defence and no chin.

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            #65
            Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
            He moves more, but not faster from my view...and that's Wlad in his later 30's. Wlad at 24 was much faster and lighter on his feet, he's still lighter on his feet and quicker, he just doesn;t dance around.

            I never understood people talking about Fury being fast as I have never seen it. I've always seen a big lump who is heavy on his feet and clumsy...with crap defence and no chin.
            Well watch how fast he hunts down the cruiserweight Cunningham on multiple occasions. He gets right in there again and again, cutting off the ring easily.

            I think Haye will probably be too tactically aware for him, but if Fury can make it an inside fight he can win imo.

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              #66
              Make this happen, NOW. Damn I want this fight to happen....

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                #67
                Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
                Chisora's gameplan didn't change on feeling Haye's power. Audley is the only guy at HW that Haye has stopped like that and it took him 15+ unanswered punches to get him down. Haye's power at heavyweight is nothing special, its his speed that sets him apart.



                He didn't pull him so violently that Haye was forced to the deck. Haye went down like Suarez.



                I disagree. Fury is the more mobile fighter in terms of moving around the ring.



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                  #68
                  I would bet on Fury if this fight were made.

                  If Haye doesn't lay the big man out early, he's getting broken up and knocked out himself.

                  This is intriguing.

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                    #69
                    Haye Fury would be a great, interesting fight. Cunningham has different attributes then Haye, much less power, but more savy and arguably speed, and Haye is even smaller and chinnier than Cunningham. Fury seems to take more care when he is against someone who could knock him out. And Haye has struggled against huge fighters. This would compare closest to the Haye Valuev fight, Haye fought timidly and until he staggered Valuev in the 12th it was effectively an even fight. Fury has much better power, speed, and combination punching ability than Valuev, albiet is smaller with a more questionable chin. Based on last performance, I’d give Haye a slight edge because of his power and the question mark of Fury’s chin, but people need to stop overstating what Fury’s knockdowns mean. Its a question mark, but no more. Ali was knocked down twice by lesser opponents at this stage of his career and went on to prove he had one of the greatest chins in history.

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                      #70
                      i always knew that this fight was why haye came back. haye will win by knock-out, i think. fury is too open to be countered.

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