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    Boxing Snobs calling people casual fans for not appreciating slick boxing

    Hypocrisy at it's finest. First off the SWEET Science doesn't mean hit or not get hit, it doesn't mean one style of boxing, sweet science has many styles, some guys are offensive, some defensive, but they all do what it takes to win. So to say only defensive boxers epitomize the sweet science is wrong. There are many aspects and styles of boxing and they are all sweet science, the offensive aggressor, the swarmer, the boxer puncher, the counter puncher etc. not one takes precedent over the other, its all up to taste which one you like better.

    These people are the equivalent to the non conformist hipster who says they do not watch action movies because they lack substance and cater to the masses but watch independent/foreign movies because it makes them look educated and deep.

    I appreciate all types of boxing, but no matter how hard the few people on here or on message boards try their hardest to leave comments, make videos or post articles on how great Rigondeaux was against Nonito, and that if you don't like that fight you are not a true boxing fan, nobody will remember his win but a few elitists.

    I tell you also why I don't like Elitist boxing snobs, its Their way or the highway, they love to praise guys who fight super defense as if that IS boxing, BS, that isn't boxing, that is only one aspect, and you don't win fights with defense, as far as I am concerned you have to hit the guy to score a point, winning on ring generalship alone is iffy.

    Rigondeaux is a great talent but his fight against nonito wasn't of of his best showings, its getting overrated, first off why the praise? when the same people were calling Nonito overrated and a bum before? Also he didn't win in spectacular fashion. nonito was his first GREAT fighter to fight.

    The only thing that was good was watching it live, this is not a replay fight, any fight with this magnitude will get you amped but thats only because you want to see if someone will land something, nobody anticipates a fight saying "oh oh oh look I'm waiting to see a duck or a back step move! without a counter!" elitists make me laugh. People want to anticipate a KO or some combos thrown or a hard counter combo ala Juan Manuel Marquez or some defensive slip and move counters ala Pernell Whitaker, not a step back with a power right measuring stick arm and random counter shots that don't even land crisp.

    Also stop comparing Rogondeaux to Floyd Mayweather he is nowhere near Floyd;s level, stop hyping him up already, the only comparison you can give is that Rigo vs. Nonito looked like Floyd vs. Oscar one guy backing up all night with the other guy walking forward and not being able to find the other guy much, and than trading in the last round. let the guy prove himself more, if there is nobody at 122 move to 126.

    Should we praise Sven Ottke as a masterful boxer too?

    Floyd is a complete fighter he will go for the kill when he gets a guy hurt, people forget this, Rigo didn't and didn't dare to be great, this was Rigo's chance to be Floyd knocking out Diego Corrales but he held back, and nothing pisses me off more than a guy with great talent who doesn't utilize their skillset.

    Floyd true skills, complete package, watch and remember just how great Floyds skillset is
    Last edited by hectari; 04-18-2013, 06:44 PM.

    #2
    Carlos Molina and Richard Abril for me, but even then I ain't bitchin'.

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      #3
      I certainly don't, but being a casual fan is not an insult. It just means they don't spend an unhealthy amount of time and dedication into one sport.

      I know plenty of very knowledgeable hardcore fans that don't enjoy defensive prodigys.

      I think Rigo could get to Floyds level. We just need to find out more about his abilities. As in him fighting elite opponents for a few years.
      He's certainly not lightyears away from Floyd in terms of skills.

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        #4
        They truly are boxing's hipsters. Good post.

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          #5
          Snobbin' ain't easy.

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            #6
            I would call you a casual fan because your not paying attention to strategy and what a fighter needs to do to neutralize his opponents attack and win the fight.

            Your more interested in seeing action no matter who wins. Even if its not in the best interest of one of the fighters to fight aggressively and be reckless. Or your just a fan of one fighter and want to see a highlight reel KO.

            In any sport, its a professional athlete's job to execute a gameplan that gives him the best opportunity to win. I don't get why boxing is so different.

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              #7
              I guess these snobs think Goosen and Arreola and Rios are casual fans too, since they don't particularly like slick counterpunchers either

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                #8
                Originally posted by Harry Balls View Post
                I certainly don't, but being a casual fan is not an insult. It just means they don't spend an unhealthy amount of time and dedication into one sport.

                I know plenty of very knowledgeable hardcore fans that don't enjoy defensive prodigys.

                I think Rigo could get to Floyds level. We just need to find out more about his abilities. As in him fighting elite opponents for a few years.
                He's certainly not lightyears away from Floyd in terms of skills.
                Exactly! its just sickening how there is a mob of eltist fans taking shots at people who called it boring saying they are not real boxing fans, so they are going to get mad at people for sharing their HONEST opinion? the fight was boring lets not sugar coat it.

                Rigo has the skills but he failed to impress, all I saw was Nonito wanting to hurt him, and Rigo moving back all day, Rigo could have knocked him out, I think he had the tools he went at nonito in the 12th, maybe if they rematch at 126 it will be a different story and now that Rigo can take nonitos punch and he knows it, he will be more offensive and actually fire more counter combos.

                Rigo fought nonito like the past several opponents fought nonito, with fear and super defensive. Its a huge compliment to nonito, anytime a guy fights you super defensive you know they fear you.

                Rigo was more offensive against Rico Ramos the champion he won the title from and Marroquin. He brought his best defensive game but not his best offensive game against nonito.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by PBP View Post
                  I would call you a casual fan because your not paying attention to strategy and what a fighter needs to do to neutralize his opponents attack and win the fight.

                  Your more interested in seeing action no matter who wins. Even if its not in the best interest of one of the fighters to fight aggressively and be reckless. Or your just a fan of one fighter and want to see a highlight reel KO.

                  In any sport, its a professional athlete's job to execute a gameplan that gives him the best opportunity to win. I don't get why boxing is so different.
                  that's like going to see LeBron at a game and hoping he only plays defense and just scores enough to win a game

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                    #10
                    I agree with everything you said. Good thread!

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