Comments Thread For: Cotto Would Not Rule Out Facing Sergio Martinez

[_Gatti_]

Sergio= Apples
Pacquiao= Oranges
J Marquez= Guava

All their own fighters. All great fighters! Whats to argue?

[HeroBando]

Different fighters but just because JMM is more popular don't make him a better fighter than the guys Martinez fought because neither Pacquiao or Marquez could compete in the MW division so where's your logic? Even the most mediocre guy there would flatten JMM and Pacquiao. Martinez moved up and beat the MW champ. Chavez Jr is a garbage fighter but dude was/is huge compared to Martinez and Sergio boxed circles around his ass for 11 rounds.

Yea and Danny Green is better than Floyd and Sergio put together. He beat BJ Flores, who'd destroy the other 2, if they ever summoned the courage to fight him. And by your logic Wlad is King of Boxing, he knocks all those guys out with a jab.

[HeroBando]

I'm not talking about the guys who they fought I'm talking about how the fighters fight and Martinez can adapt, adjust and get the win. If you want to compare it like that then I can say "Pacquiao never fought a fighter as tall as Paul Williams or as big as Chavez Jr." I'm talking about style and technical wise. Why is it so hard to just agree that Sergio Martinez has a more effective fighting style against a wide variety of fighters than Manny Pacquiao? You guys compare fighters and how good they are by how famous or commercial they or their opponents are.

Name me one fighter Sergio Martinez fought at a catch weight to gain an advantage? I'll even help you. Paul Williams, but it was Team Williams who wanted it in the rematch because they thought Martinez would have trouble making the weight. I'm not making this a Pacquiao topic but come on. Martinez has better fighting style and is a better fighter technically. You can agree or not but it is what it is.

Pac asked for his 1st CW in his 7th division. That's more non CW divisional belts than anyone ever.

By contrast, Sergio won't even move up to grab his 2nd belt (3rd if you count the vacant interim one at 154), despite much more attractive fights one division up. Don't tell me you wouldn't trip all over yourself giving him credit if he fought Froch at 166.

[Hiei]

Sergio= Apples
Pacquiao= Oranges
J Marquez= Guava

All their own fighters. All great fighters! Whats to argue?

JMM and Pac are ATG's and First Ballot Hall of Famers

Serigo is neither

[BafanaBafana]

Pac asked for his 1st CW in his 7th division. That's more non CW divisional belts than anyone ever.

By contrast, Sergio won't even move up to grab his 2nd belt (3rd if you count the vacant interim one at 154), despite much more attractive fights one division up. Don't tell me you wouldn't trip all over yourself giving him credit if he fought Froch at 166.

Martinez had the full WBC belt at 154 (also ranked #1 in the division). Martinez started his pro career at age 23 in the 147 division. Moved up to 154 when he was 27 and moved up again at 34 to 160 (so you would want him to move up to 168 at age 38 when he's already the lineal champion at 160?). Pac debuted at age 16 and by age 25-26 he was already fighting at 130. Also the move from up from 154, 160, 168, 175 is a lot harder than it is in the lower divisions where you eat a sandwich and you're already in the next division (personally I like the way the way the divisions are divided up in MMA; 8 instead of 17 of which 12 are below middleweight).

[HeroBando]

Martinez had the full WBC belt at 154 (also ranked #1 in the division). Martinez started his pro career at age 23 in the 147 division. Moved up to 154 when he was 27 and moved up again at 34 to 160 (so you would want him to move up to 168 at age 38 when he's already the lineal champion at 160?). Pac debuted at age 16 and by age 25-26 he was already fighting at 130. Also the move from up from 154, 160, 168, 175 is a lot harder than it is in the lower divisions where you eat a sandwich and you're already in the next division (personally I like the way the way the divisions are divided up in MMA; 8 instead of 17 of which 12 are below middleweight).

Yeah cry me a river. At best Sergio is a legit titlist in 2 division. He got promoted to full title at 154, but never fought once as full champ, not 1 defense. Title won vacant AND interim, vs fringe Bunema. But if you're a fanboy, you not only think that's a legit championship reign, you give him credit for 147 where he's done 0 of note.

[Hiei]

Yeah cry me river. At best Sergio is a legit titlist in 2 division. He got promoted to full title at 154, but never fought once as full champ, not 1 defense. Title won vacant AND interim, vs fringe Bunema. But if you're a fanboy, you not only think that's a legit championship reign, you give him credit for 147 where he's done 0 of note.

good ownage

[Prince-Naz]

Cotto is a Warrior who deserves everyone's respect.

[thatdudespits]

Quote:

Originally Posted by thatdudespits

I wonder if anyone on this site can be objective at all.... look at the facts... Cotto would be sergios toughest test since P.Will...

Facts....

Sergio Martinez is not a GREAT defensive fighter.... his best defense is his foot speed and angles. He can be hit.... he can be hurt...

Cotto has above average foot speed... he moves very well.... and Cotto's defense is MUCH better than appreciated... dont let the scar tissue fool you... Cotto was not getting tagged up in either the Mayweather or Trout fight.... he's not easy to hit.
understand at the JMW limit Cotto is a +10 on compubox +- rating.

Sergio is not a combination puncher... 1's and 1,2's all night like he did Chavez is not going to work in this fight... he will need a different gameplan.

I dont know if Cottos power will be relevant in this fight.... as Cotto landed some devistating left hooks on Austin Trout, and Trout was never truly hurt.

I have no question Miguel will be able to catch up with sergio... I think this fight doesnt go the distance... however I think its a great fight... hard to pick a winner


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Have you seen any Martinez fights lol. Martinez gets hit half as much as Cotto. I have no idea how you think Cotto could possibly stop Martinez

I watch every fight on television... and its easy to look good when your quick on your feet... fighting tall slow footed robotic european fighters who cant catch up to you.....

styles make fights... some of you dont understand that.


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[thatdudespits]

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRBOXINGCOTTO

Cotto has a chance to beat Sergio he's old his body is starting to break down with injuries and sometimes Sergio leaves himself open and plays ****** like he did in the last round with Chavez but he is bigger and stronger it will be a tough fight for cotto but at least he has the balls to fight anybody

Sorry to break it to you but no he doesn't. Sergio would flat lay Cotto out and put him on a stretcher.

this is what happens when a fighter scores 1 one punch KO.... all of a sudden he can do it to any world class fighter.... in the real world though, thats not the case.... P Will took a shot he didnt see and got KOed... the power of that punch is less relevant then the timing of that punch.


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