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The thing that people fail to bring up about 2006-2008 WWs, is that none of these guys really made a claim to the WW throne, there wasn't one fighter there that put up any consistency in their wins. They were all beating eachother. Williams beats Matthysse in a slug fest, Cintron beats Matthysse, Margarito beats Cintron, Cotto beats Quintana, Cotto beat Mosley[barely], Williams beat Margarito[Also 'barely' in some people eyes], Quintana beats Williams, Williams beats Quintana, Margarito beats Cotto, [Williams calls out Margarito for a rematch, Margarito declines and chooses Mosley, Williams goes up to 160] Mosley beats Margarito, Pacquiao beats Cotto.
The last man standing, who really made a mark, was Shane Mosley, and that is who Mayweather fought. Mayweather tried to make the Pacquiao fight, but Pacquiao backed off. Mayweathers choices in 2010 were Pacquiao and Mosley, the two beat options at the time, people forget that Floyd wanted those two and only those two. He tried to make the fight and it is pretty publicized that Pacquiao simply said no to the 15 day cut off that he asked for, once it was granted to him. Pacquiao said no, and that is where that argument ends. Mayweather went with the lineal champion Shane Mosley instead, who was claimed by fans as being avoided by both Mayweather and Pacquiao.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostThe thing that people fail to bring up about 2006-2008 WWs, is that none of these guys really made a claim to the WW throne, there wasn't one fighter there that put up any consistency in their wins. They were all beating eachother. Williams beats Matthysse in a slug fest, Cintron beats Matthysse, Margarito beats Cintron, Cotto beats Quintana, Cotto beat Mosley[barely], Williams beat Margarito[Also 'barely' in some people eyes], Quintana beats Williams, Williams beats Quintana, Margarito beats Cotto, [Williams calls out Margarito for a rematch, Margarito declines and chooses Mosley, Williams goes up to 160] Mosley beats Margarito, Pacquiao beats Cotto.
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Originally posted by straightleft View PostFruck come on! Remember in 6 years he fought only 4 times while others fought 10-12 times. These 4 fights is not even you can call a quality wins but shit wins (weight cheated Marquez, grandpa Mosley, sucker punched Ortiz and past prime Cotto). Your boy is good avoiding dangerous opponents but smart enough to let them fought one another while watching from a safe distance.
If he was in a super 6 tournie and won one fight against Ward he would refuse to fight Froch, Dirrell, and all the others claiming Ward is the best. But in reality that is only 3 points.
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