Question for all who truly believe Marquez was not using PED's

[letsgobrady]

i really don't see the difference beetwen marquez and his last 2 fights with pacquiao he looks pretty much the same

[letsgobrady]

why do some people here think jail is a place that reforms you?the majority of time it doesnt

[Suavecito80]

Soggylungs is fighting the fight, LOL. Marquez passed the test I thought that is all that mattered?? Now everything changed. GTFOH with that ****.

[maguirre]

What does floyd or his father have to do with this thread? The best thing about MAnny getting KTFO is that posters like yourself have to contradict 4 years of posts regarding why you thought Manny was clean. JMM passsed the tests. Let the commission do their jobs. We don't need extra tests. Now you're singing a totally different tune.

I'm just saying these are useless threads. Nothing usually comes out of them. People's beliefs are based on man love and deep infatuation on their favorite idol. Look at you, why would I be surprised you'll defend anything that props up your idol. Exactly. Thread's title is "question for all who truly believe Marquez was not using peds". Who would have proof that JMM is on peds or not? Yet you automatically say NO HE'S NOT! Exactly. Hehe...

If you don't mind making fools of yourselves that's up to you guys.

[I Love Jesus!]

Why focus on the new stuff about Marquez when we can focus on the DRAMATIC change of Pacquaio from 2009-11? Armstrong is one thing, but Paquaio has raised so many questions about his physical attributes...who would be surprised of he came out years later saying that him and Ariza were cheating?

Yeah Mayweather to he's definitely juicing. Big time guilty conscience.

[The Big Dunn]

I'm just saying these are useless threads. Nothing usually comes out of them. People's beliefs are based on man love and deep infatuation on their favorite idol. Look at you, why would I be surprised you'll defend anything that props up your idol. Exactly. Thread's title is "question for all who truly believe Marquez was not using peds". Who would have proof that JMM is on peds or not? Yet you automatically say NO HE'S NOT! Exactly. Hehe...

If you don't mind making fools of yourselves that's up to you guys.

No I said JMM passed all the tests. The same thing posters like you have said for 4 years regarding posters who suggest Manny is juicing. I just want to know which standards apply.
Is it the eye test that some fans used to determine if Manny was juicing? Is it who your trainer/strength coach is?

Just tell me what wer are using to form an opinion. Then apply the same set of standard sto JMM and Manny.

[WESS]

Let the commission do their jobs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or is this extra testing only an issue when Floyd brings it up? Which was nearly 4 years ago. How many times did Pac have the oppertunity to test and how many times did he actually test?

Remember Pac's standards when it comes to extra testing is letting the commission do thier job.

Why is everyone tripping NOW that Pac got KTFO? Where was this concern 4 years ago when Floyd brought it up? Funny how people want to talk about Lance. The story IMO helps the case for people that accused Pac.

[Mr. Philadel]

The Lance Armstrong story makes me think of pacquiao more than Marquez(I'm not accusing pacman). There are big differences in that lance was finding a way to pass mandatory tests where as pacman has not tested. The only similarities I see are that they have both been accused and both chose to sue over those accusations. I just saw conte on CNN saying how Shane Mosley and Marion Jones both tried to sue him over his allegations, which turned out to be true. Lance Armstrong did the same thing in suing his accusers. Pacman has done the same. Pacman's story is more similar to Ben Johnson, the Canadian track star. He was always fast but never had enough to finish races strong enough to beat Carl Lewis and the top guys. Then out of nowhere, he is finishing strong as ever and blowing these guys out. Carl and and the other track stars saw the obvious and knew he was juicing. He tested positive and his supplier came out on him which forced him to admit. When u see a guy all of a sudden turn into a beast in any sport, it raises red flags. That being said I can understand why there may be concerns about Marquez. But if noone cares about PAC refusing tests, they should not care if Marquez has used.

proper post!!...green

[DeadLikeMe]

On a semi-related note, that "5 judge panel declare Manny Pacmen Fighter of Decade winner over Tim Bradley" crap is gone from the boxrec records finally...Manny may still be sleeping, but the sport moves on. In another 5 years people will hardly remember it as a robbery.

[The Big Dunn]

Let the commission do their jobs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or is this extra testing only an issue when Floyd brings it up? Which was nearly 4 years ago. How many times did Pac have the oppertunity to test and how many times did he actually test?

Remember Pac's standards when it comes to extra testing is letting the commission do thier job.

Why is everyone tripping NOW that Pac got KTFO? Where was this concern 4 years ago when Floyd brought it up? Funny how people want to talk about Lance. The story IMO helps the case for people that accused Pac.

Basically, JMM gave manny a chance to test and Manny said no. So, according to pac fans, JMM juiced.

I just wish one of them was honest and admitted their real reason they are pissed off is JMM got better PEDs than Manny did.