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Did Floyd Mayweather beat 10 (future) Hall of Famers ?
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Originally posted by dc3383I have to laugh at this f**kery; when Floyd fought Zab that was Floyd 2nd fight at 147 but that wasn't Zab best weightclass do I have that right. So a 35 yr old Floyd isn't past his prime but a 32 yr old Cotto is that quite interesting also. If those De La Hoya, Shane and Marquez aren't good wins for Floyd they can't b good wins for other fighters remember that.
Zab is a good win
both Cotto and Floyd were a little past it... still a great win...
now mosley is a little tricky.... great win for cotto.. floyd fought him over 3 years later.. still a DECENT win.... but not a good win for pacquiao or canelo
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Originally posted by shade darkar View Postpacquiao was the #1 welterweight and p4p #1 and people claimed floyd feared him = great duck.
1-walked away from the negotiation table in 2010 over drug testing
2-Has Arum built that stadium yet???May of 2012 was to soon for Floyd and the mgm grand wasnt good enough,although he wanted to fight Jmm in May at the Mgm grand..
Floyd aint ducked **** he called mannys damn phone and tried to make the fight happen...when has manny EVER called Floyd??
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Originally posted by MR. LARRYX View PostHe also
1-walked away from the negotiation table in 2010 over drug testing
2-Has Arum built that stadium yet???May of 2012 was to soon for Floyd and the mgm grand wasnt good enough,although he wanted to fight Jmm in May at the Mgm grand..
Floyd aint ducked **** he called mannys damn phone and tried to make the fight happen...when has manny EVER called Floyd??
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Originally posted by shade darkar View Postlol. talk as much ish as you like, he ducked pacquiao. marquez wasnt scared to fight.
Shane didnt duck drug testing,ortiz didnt,cotto didnt...matter fact Roach tried to get mosley to drug test for manny..mosley said ok long as manny does it to then roach said....oh never mind...lol
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Any good Prime fighter can beat 10 All time greats who are past their prime or smaller in size. Hell can you imagine How people would view Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran and Tommy Hearns if they avoided each other and Cherry pick name has beens or pick on little guys who challenged them ?
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Originally posted by MurkaManQuote:
Originally Posted by BRITISH LlON
I just went through Mayweather's record and was kind of "surprised" that I saw 10 potential (future) Hall of Famers on his record.
Here are those 10 fighters:
Diego Corrales
Jose Luis Castillo
Arturo Gatti (he will be inducted this year)
Zab Judah
Oscar De La Hoya
Ricky Hatton
Juan Manuel Marquez
Shane Mosley
Miguel Cotto
Genaro Hernandez
let me just say that:
- 6 of them are borderline Hall of Famers which in my opinion will ALL end up in the Hall of Fame even though some people say they don't deserve it. ( Hatton, Genaro Hernandez, Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, Arturo Gatti, Zab Judah)
- 2 were way past their prime ( Shane Mosley, and some people might say also De La Hoya)
- 1 was way out of his weight class at the time of the fight ( Juan Manuel Marquez)
- The 10th guy is Miguel Cotto, who gave Floyd hell in my opinion and some people say Cotto was also way past his prime.
Vote on the poll and explain which of these 10 opponents of Mayweather should be in the Hall of Fame (some day).
Mosley, Cotto, Hall of famers? Everytime Cotto stepped up he lost, same goes for Mosley, he only beat Oscar! Floyd beat Juan who KO'd Pac, Genero Hernandeez, Diego,and Oscar! The rest of them, Im not too sure, oh and Gatti!
you **** on cotto and mosley, but not gatti...
Cotto and Mosley are for sure first ballot HOFers
Cotto faced 18 former or current world champs... beat the likes of ... Mosley, Judah, Margarito, Quintana, Clottey, and many other very good fighters... Cottos resume is top notch from top to bottom... (not even mentioning his brilliant record at 140lbs)... he is a 4 time world champ in 3 divisions...
Mosley beat DLH twice, Margarito, John John Molina, Leija, vargas, and the list goes on... 3 division champ who always took on the best.
if your going to talk about fighters who lost everytime they stepped up... how about oscar?
gatti is a C class fighter as mayweather himself stated
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Originally posted by MR. LARRYX View PostManny ducked Floyd,over and over and over again......Floyd called the mans damn house after he said"i ummm ummm will take less for the fans"floyd calls then BOOM,no i want 50/50 or no fight...lol
Shane didnt duck drug testing,ortiz didnt,cotto didnt...matter fact Roach tried to get mosley to drug test for manny..mosley said ok long as manny does it to then roach said....oh never mind...lol
floyd was that scared of pacquiao that he thought he was cheating! funny how he didnt have a problem fighting ricky hatton. funny how he didnt say to ricky hatton, take these tests or im not fighting.
fact is floyd was that paranoid about this guy moving up the weights and scoring knockouts that he didnt fancy risking his 0.
at the very start of it, floyd wasnt prepared to fight by the same rules he fought everybody else. i wonder why?!!!! and then when pacquiao agreed to take these tests floyd miraculously decided he needs 100% of the PPV money!
not the first time by the way, didnt fancy a cotto fight when cotto was the number 1 welterweight in the world, he chose "retirement" instead. didnt fancy a fight with margarito when he was the number 1 welterweight in the world either. but hey he fought ortiz lets have a wank! number 2 welterweight and WBC champ, yay! idiot.
LOL!!!!!!
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Originally posted by shade darkar View Postis pacquiaos name on floyds resume? didnt think so.
floyd was that scared of pacquiao that he thought he was cheating! funny how he didnt have a problem fighting ricky hatton. funny how he didnt say to ricky hatton, take these tests or im not fighting.
fact is floyd was that paranoid about this guy moving up the weights and scoring knockouts that he didnt fancy risking his 0.
at the very start of it, floyd wasnt prepared to fight by the same rules he fought everybody else. i wonder why?!!!! and then when pacquiao agreed to take these tests floyd miraculously decided he needs 100% of the PPV money!
not the first time by the way, didnt fancy a cotto fight when cotto was the number 1 welterweight in the world, he chose "retirement" instead. didnt fancy a fight with margarito when he was the number 1 welterweight in the world either. but hey he fought ortiz lets have a wank! number 2 welterweight and WBC champ, yay! idiot.
LOL!!!!!!
and funny how easy the cotto fight was made soon as he left bob arum......
and even arum said the margo fight could have been made..arum bloacked it...read rinse and repeat
Arum stated that Mayweather would have fought Margarito for the 8 million, but he wanted a guaranteed 10 million to fight Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton. Arum only guaranteed him 7 million. And for those who don’t know Cotto and Hatton were at the Mayweather-Gatti fight and Cotto was ranked number 5 by the ring at the time (Proof: Listen to the commentary Jim Lampley at the end of round 5) . Cotto had just moved up to the 140 pound weight class and he didn’t make an offer to fight Mayweather after the Gatti fight.
Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn’t interested in participating in. “That’s not in the cards,” Arum said. “He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It’s not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold ‘em and when to fold ‘em. We’ll talk about things down the road.” Notice this part Arum was talking.
now go sit in the corner and read a book or something
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Originally posted by The Weebler II View PostGatti, Cotto, Mosley, De La Hoya were past prime.
Hatton, Judah, Marquez were not fighting at their best weight class.
So that leaves Corrales , Castillo and Hernandez(?) as his most legit wins, the last one in 2002.
De la Hoya was legit win
Mosley was might of been old but he was still at the top of the WW division at the time.
What's mayweather best weight 130lbs? exactly stop being an idiot, Hatton Judah and Marquez are legit at WW in this era.Last edited by Roy Keane; 01-08-2013, 10:42 AM.
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