Mares is top 5 P4P

[The Tase]

top 10 absolutely. top 5?

hell naw.

1. Floyd
2. Pac
3. Ward
4. Donaire
5. Martinez
6. JMM
7. Bradley
8. Mares
9. Cotto
10. Froch

[!! Shawn]

if mares doesn't get knocked out by the left hook (or right hand,) he'd murder doniare. i think he'd UD him pretty easily.

real talk. mares is a very steady fighter.

all doniare does is punch hard. mares is a consistent fighter. donaire picks spots to look like roy jones, and otherwise does next to nothing.


mares problem is that he gasses in spots because he's so aggressive. donaire may catch him then, and i do think that he could knock him out with those things. he'll hurt anybody under 130 lbs if he catches them flush.

Lets not get carried away. Mares is a good fighter, but he is not on the same level as guys like Rigondeaux, or Donaire.

What happened last night was that we found out that Moreno wasn't quite as good as people made him out to be. Never though Moreno was that good, I always compared him in my mind to a Christian Mijares in the way people were over rating him.

Mares fought a great fight last night, but there are CLEAR flaws in his game that are there to be exploited.

[!! Shawn]

nonito wants you outside and looking to sharpshoot. if you walk into one you are good as dead, but he'd rather have you far away so he can control the pace.

that's the pace he likes. for a bw/FW he hardly throws anything. he fights like a big man, but he's not, and neither are his opponents. mares fights like a featherweight. he throws, he jabs, he breaks guys down.

if mares can get all the way inside nonito won't do anything with him. he'll probably try and hold on.

we'll see if he can starch mares on the way in. i don't think that he can.

Mares would not be so willing to walk in headfirst against a punches such as Donaire or Rigondeaux.

[kiaba360]

I would favor Mares, but know could go either way on the decision. Also really doubt Mares being K.O.'d, If Donaire somehow did KO Mares that would solidify his P4P rankings!

Mares showed that he needs a rest period after every onslaught, and that's when he's most vulnerable. If Nonito has enough energy to take advantage, then Mares could very well find himself on the canvas. Moreno stunned Mares a couple of times and hurt him to the body too. I don't see Nonito winning if he doesn't go to the body.

[New England]

Mares would not be so willing to walk in headfirst against a punches such as Donaire or Rigondeaux.

again, i don't think mares has an easy time fighting donaire, instead i think the cards will favor mares style. he's just got to watch for the bombs.

i do think mares would have an "easy" time with rigo
as easy as it can be against a pure counterpuncher who has been a top cuban amateur since he was a boy

mares is much bigger, has a good chin, and if there's a fighter at the lower weights who is less steady than donaire it's rigo. if he's not looking like a spectacular counterpuncher (which he does for portions of all of his fights,) he's looking like an amateur



i'm not getting carried away with last night's fight. rigo is unproven compared to mares, who has fought top fighters at 118 and now is doing the same at 122. i've been wathcing mares since he was a prospect, and i know what he's got to a much greater degree than what we saw last night.

[HeroBando]

Never though Moreno was that good, I always compared him in my mind to a Christian Mijares in the way people were over rating him.

I think you'll get some flack for this, but I agree somewhat. One difference, while both lack power, Mijares likes to sit in the pocket and counter, Moreno likes to run around a lot

[bojangles1987]

Lets not get carried away. Mares is a good fighter, but he is not on the same level as guys like Rigondeaux, or Donaire.

What happened last night was that we found out that Moreno wasn't quite as good as people made him out to be. Never though Moreno was that good, I always compared him in my mind to a Christian Mijares in the way people were over rating him.

Mares fought a great fight last night, but there are CLEAR flaws in his game that are there to be exploited.

I don't think Moreno was overrated, he fought a very good fight against a very dirty fighter with no help from the ref. It's more that Mares was underrated, and capable of things people like myself did not think he was capable of.

Also, Moreno's lack of power hurt him bad last night. For most the fight, Mares had ZERO respect for the punches he was getting hit with. That's a serious problem in any fight.

[vacon04]

1. Mayweather
2. Pacquiao
3. Ward
4. Martinez
5. Donaire

Who does he overtake on that list? No one. Not even close.

I have Pacquiao at number 4 and could easily be overtaken by Mares. For me beating Moreno, Agbeko 2x, Morel, Vic and as a personal opinion I had him beating Perez too, is a lot better than beating Bradley (I had Pac winning), Margarito and Mosley and losing to Marquez twice.

P4P list is based on personal opinion, that's why I'm considering those results and not the "official" ones.

[Optimistic]

Is he P4P? Absolutely.

Is he in the top 5? Not yet. He should be in the bottom half of the P4P IMO.

[AztecWanker]

Mares is definitely top 5. Along with Froch and Ward, he has the best run in Boxing, currently.