Comments Thread For: Canelo Will Sit Until May: Eyes Mayweather, Big Names

[hitking]

But those fights were against low level opposition, meaning lots of early KOs and lots of one-sided beatdowns. He has no experience against A level fighters and he's gonna have the longest layoff of his career before facing one for the first time. That's not smart.

So what. Most of these guys have been boxing since they were 5-6 years old. They aren't gonna forget how to box in 8 months. Its just a pointless, bull**** topic that gives dip****s something to babble about on sites like this one.

[turnedup]

You do realize that when Mayweather fought Mosley, Sugar was coming off his destruction of Margarito, at the absolute pinnacle of his career. And Mosley was not only rated the top welterweight in the game, but was pretty much the consensus P4P #3. It was pretty much a given that the "Mosley was old and washed up" excuse was gonna be given after he got his ass kicked. But heading into that fight, Mayweather-Mosley was the biggest fight that could be made outside of Mayweather-Pacquaio.

As for Ortiz, if my memory serves me correct, Ring magazine had him rated #3 at welterweight behind Mayweather and Pacquaio when Money fought him. I'm not saying Ortiz is a world beater. But considering Mayweather was coming off a 16 month layoff, I'd say Ortiz was an adequate tune-up type opponent.

As for Cotto, I'll give you that his run at jr middleweight might not be that impressive. But he did hit the division by completely outclassing Yuri Foreman, who was undefeated and whom many picked to beat Cotto heading into their fight. Mayweather was moving up. And oh yeah, Cotto's lone legitimate loss was to a guy that dip****s get on this site daily and claim is head and shoulders better than Mayweather. So exactly what's wrong with Mayweather moving up, fighting the #1 rated guy in a higher division, and who's lone loss is to a guy that's "better" than him anyway?

Dismantling of Margarito lol!! gtfoh..Mosley would beat Margarito at 80..that fight would turn out the same exact way regardless of shane's age while yes it made shane more attractive I as a shane mosley fan was proud of the win but it brought zero validation to the fact mosley still had it. Again i'm a mosley fan personally but he was done..further proof how did the rest of his career go? He looked mediocre in the rest of his fights after that. My favorite active fighter is Cotto and i'll go ahead and say this too..Cotto is at 154 not because of the weight but because the fighters are naturally slower than at 147 and he can't keep up with the speed to compete at 147..the man walks around about 160 when he's not fighting, I also don't think he was at a disadvantage in either of his fights vs mayweather or pacquiao..for mayweather he had enough time to train at the weight and for pacquaio he had just fought within range of the weight he was asked to make, he had to drop 3 pounds. Ortiz got his name off one fight tho..he beat Berto who had a huge hype machine behind him..as evidenced by Lopez Ortiz is not that good..if you go back and look at other ortiz fights he struggled with mediocre fighters...in no way shape or form at least in my opinion did Ortiz ever deserve that fight..hell Bradley deserved a payday vs mayweather more than Ortiz did..but he's a gbp fighter and an easy fight because he's got no reach advantage nor the technicality to compete with mayweather or even hang in the ring with him. The only way Ortiz would've looked good vs Mayweather is if Mayweather had come after him which we know he wouldn't. Listen I still stand by the fact Mayweather avoided Paul Williams who was a top 10 fighter before mayweather retired and was still in the top 10 when he came back..it's the one name I will never excuse mayweather for...we can say anyting about every other fighter from canelo, to martinez, to pacquaio..the one official fight Mayweather openly ran away from that folks seem to forget is paul williams..he's a perfect example of my argument of bypassing. Not hating on floyd but it's the point where I woke up as a fan of his and was like "WOAH" he's genuinely scared of this boxer. I personally have been looking for that one true challenge in opponent to find my way back into floyd's corner..been waiting 4 years for it and nothing..I think the world of floyd's ability but man has it been disappointing as a boxing fan to see him go after the easy money.

[Motofan]

Canelo has fought nobody to earn a shot at a big name. Period.

[Ggurts si kab]

Ginger kid is stepping up. he should test them water first though. Lara would be a good test.

[turnedup]

Canelo has fought nobody to earn a shot at a big name. Period.

So have many other Floyd has fought, hasn't stopped him from fighting them..If the excuse is Canelo hasn't fought anyone..well he beat the guy who beat ortiz who fought floyd..plus Canelo is ten million times a bigger star than ortiz..if it's a money game the smart money would be to fight canelo especially on May 5th..that's a huge money maker for all involved.

[lopez36]

No we won't, a least not true fans, what we want is for Canelo to legitimized the belt that was given to him by a crooked org and fight fighters that are ranked in his own division, what we want is for him to fight Vanes, Lara, Molina, Trout etc.. Regardless of the danger, the kid is more protected than *****, by wearing that belt and not fighting the best available boxers he is in fact taking food from fighters that deserve better, if he is not going to defend the belt then vacate it and keep doing what he is doing, I'll tell you that what he is been fighting doesn't prepare him for the likes of Fraud, Cotto, Lara and Vanes...

oh yes they will come up with excuses after excuses,it still happens with mayweather,why not with canelo? and yes the belt was handed to him but nobody act like only the wbc does wrong,all organizations do it,i don't care if some do it more than others,they still do...and i agree that he should fight guys in his own division and he will and still will get blasted,thats what i'm trying to say,not all but most will and they will have no reason to,2013 will be the year he finally steps up but many fans will still be like "oh cotto is pretty much done".."lara really only has 18 fights" "vanes is overratd" "trout wasn't what people thought"...remember that,every win he has the haters will come up with a very pathetic excuse,look for any little small thing in his opponent to discredit the win,and if canelo does beat all these guys that people want him to fight then i suppose you'll be one of the first to say he is truly a champ,since you are saying true boxing fans know better

[BabyFaceAssasin]

So now he's only fight twice a year on specific dates for Mexicans?? He's been babied, he's not a throwback fighter, he should step up - bu not with his own demands and his own terms. I think Kirkland & Lara would both be good fights for him before Cotto.

[vacon04]

He said exactly the same thing last year. "I want Mayweather Jr" and ended up fighting shot Mosley and LWW Josesito Lopez.

[hitking]

Dismantling of Margarito lol!! gtfoh..Mosley would beat Margarito at 80..that fight would turn out the same exact way regardless of shane's age while yes it made shane more attractive I as a shane mosley fan was proud of the win but it brought zero validation to the fact mosley still had it. Again i'm a mosley fan personally but he was done..further proof how did the rest of his career go? He looked mediocre in the rest of his fights after that. My favorite active fighter is Cotto and i'll go ahead and say this too..Cotto is at 154 not because of the weight but because the fighters are naturally slower than at 147 and he can't keep up with the speed to compete at 147..the man walks around about 160 when he's not fighting, I also don't think he was at a disadvantage in either of his fights vs mayweather or pacquiao..for mayweather he had enough time to train at the weight and for pacquaio he had just fought within range of the weight he was asked to make, he had to drop 3 pounds. Ortiz got his name off one fight tho..he beat Berto who had a huge hype machine behind him..as evidenced by Lopez Ortiz is not that good..if you go back and look at other ortiz fights he struggled with mediocre fighters...in no way shape or form at least in my opinion did Ortiz ever deserve that fight..hell Bradley deserved a payday vs mayweather more than Ortiz did..but he's a gbp fighter and an easy fight because he's got no reach advantage nor the technicality to compete with mayweather or even hang in the ring with him. The only way Ortiz would've looked good vs Mayweather is if Mayweather had come after him which we know he wouldn't. Listen I still stand by the fact Mayweather avoided Paul Williams who was a top 10 fighter before mayweather retired and was still in the top 10 when he came back..it's the one name I will never excuse mayweather for...we can say anyting about every other fighter from canelo, to martinez, to pacquaio..the one official fight Mayweather openly ran away from that folks seem to forget is paul williams..he's a perfect example of my argument of bypassing. Not hating on floyd but it's the point where I woke up as a fan of his and was like "WOAH" he's genuinely scared of this boxer. I personally have been looking for that one true challenge in opponent to find my way back into floyd's corner..been waiting 4 years for it and nothing..I think the world of floyd's ability but man has it been disappointing as a boxing fan to see him go after the easy money.

If my memory serves me correctly, Paul Williams was coming off getting his ass kicked by Carlos Quintana when Mayweather was fighting the likes of DLH and Hatton. And after getting his revenge in the rematch, he left the division, before Mayweather even came back to fight JMM. Williams left the division around the time of Margarito-Cotto I. So basically, there was never a point in time where a Mayweather-Williams fight was necessary. Much less, there was never a point in time Mayweather took on a lesser fighter than Williams. So all in all, you have no point.

I'm curious, why is it that Mayweather is somehow required to fight guys coming off loses. He supposedly ducked Margarito. But when Mayweather hit the division, Margarito was rebuilding from a loss to Daniel Santos, which was followed by the loss to Williams. And when it made sense for Mayweather to fight him after his "win" against Cotto, he proceeded to lose to Molsey. Maybe if guys stop losing, they may get their shot.

As for Mosley and his reasoning why he beat Margarito. I say to you, if him beating the then #1 welterweight in the world is rendered meaningless based on a bad style match-up, I say why even keep score? Mosley was the #1 guy when Mayweather fought him. That's all that matters. Its easy to go back in retrospect and say he wasn't this nor that. But based on the most important thing that happens in a boxing match, the result. There wasn't a better opponent available for Mayweather when he fought Mosley not named Manny Pacquaio. Its just like dip****s who act like the Mayweather-Marquez fight was a sham citing JMM was outta his comfort zone. Acting as if that same fish outta water JMM didn't come back in his next welterweight fight and in the minds of most who saw beat the best welterweight in the world not named Floyd Mayweather. Its all bull**** and double standartds.

[lopez36]

He said exactly the same thing last year. "I want Mayweather Jr" and ended up fighting shot Mosley and LWW Josesito Lopez.

yeah but mayweather said canelo wasn't on his level yet,that then people would say he beat a very inexperienced fighter,i think he said this before fighting ortiz,if mayweather wants to fight him he will,floyd is the one who will decide,marquez asked for him after one of his fights and mayweather immediatly accepted,he can do the same here,if mayweather and canelo don't fight it's because mayweather doesn't want to,he always says he chooses who he fights and on his terms,which is fine and he can choose who ever he wants to,maybe he still feels canelo needs to fight someone else first which is fine