How can people rank Marquez above Pacquiao?

[Spray_resistant]

JMM in 3 fights with Pac is the one even if unoffically has proven to be better in at least one fight of the series, unless you scored that last fight in slo-mo infrared vision.

[ALG United]

yet manny keeps struggling against marquez lol

Buster Douglas KO'd Tyson, would you rank him higher than Tyson??!!!

[4Corners]

No one ranks him above Manny all-time. Manny is around the Top 30 or so. Marquez is inside the Top 100, but not in the Top 50, in my book. He's an ATG though.

[DAN916]

Close fights every time but... Pacquiao has shown to be clearly superior vs other fighters, imo!

Would Marquez beat or better this?

TKO David Diaz (probably)
TKO De La Hoya (unlikely, maybe UD that version)
TKO 2 Hatton (unlikely)
TKO Cotto (would most likely lose)
UD Clottey (most likely lose)
UD Margarito (most likely lose)
UD Mosley (most likely lose)

Where as Pacquiao vs Marquez's recent competition

Casamayor
Diaz (Juan)
Mayweather
Diaz
Katsidis (got knocked down)
Ramos
Fedchenko

Pacquiao has clearly had a much better run than Marquez vs superior opponents, Mayweather aside (which he lost) how many of Marquez's recent opponents could beat Pac?

So if they were to rank a flyweight above Pac he would have to be able to beat pacs opponents at welterweight to justify it?? No therefor your that logic doesnt work.

[wizard king]

The way pac accomplished his achievements is what makes him a joke,nothing but a media hype created fighter. Carefully positioned to fight shot and weight drained fighters you can't give credit to bull siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit wins, pac is nothing but a clown like his fans.

[ALG United]

JMM in 3 fights with Pac is the one even if unoffically has proven to be better in at least one fight of the series, unless you scored that last fight in slo-mo infrared vision.

We are talking about overall rankings, Barrera was twice beaten by Junior Jones but would you rank Jones higher than Barrera??!! I also love Marquez, but Marquez's greatest achievements were still those 3 close fights with Pacquiao.. Styles makes fights, and Marquez certainly knows Manny very well, but Manny's achievements in the higher weights are what made him high above in ranking compared to Marquez...

[Doctor_Tenma]

you can't, period. marquez has achieved notable accolades in boxing, but not enough to surpass pacquiao

A lot of truth to this, as great as Marquez is he hasn't done himself any justice by ignoring strong opposition to solely get at Manny, that's all good and everything but legacy wise he could have done much more for himself. Whatever happens in that 4th fight, I hope Marquez fights Bradley, Guerrero, Matthysse, Danny Garcia, fighters of that caliber. After the 3rd fight against Manny he didn't look like he wanted to box for much longer, I hope we get 3 more fights at least.

[tezel8764]

Pacquiao's wins over MAB & Barrera put him high.

[deanrw]

Every fighter has one opponent who seems to be there Achilles Heel. If we ranked them over the more prized and accomplished fighter in close bitterly fought battles, well then we would be calling Ken Norton the greatest.

[tocayito1]

Close fights every time but... Pacquiao has shown to be clearly superior vs other fighters, imo!

Would Marquez beat or better this?

TKO David Diaz (probably)
TKO De La Hoya (unlikely, maybe UD that version)
TKO 2 Hatton (unlikely)
TKO Cotto (would most likely lose)
UD Clottey (most likely lose)
UD Margarito (most likely lose)
UD Mosley (most likely lose)

Where as Pacquiao vs Marquez's recent competition

Casamayor
Diaz (Juan)
Mayweather
Diaz
Katsidis (got knocked down)
Ramos
Fedchenko

Pacquiao has clearly had a much better run than Marquez vs superior opponents, Mayweather aside (which he lost) how many of Marquez's recent opponents could beat Pac?

de la hoya 147 lb catchweight
hatton style is made for marquez
cotto 145 catchweight
clottey showed up to collect a paycheck
margarito 150 lb catchweight
mosley was shot to ****