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    Originally posted by Imatroll View Post
    How is Mayweather going to slow down Canelo? He doesn't have the power, he doesn't throw many combinations. As I mentioned above Mayweather loves to lean against the ropes, he will eats shots all night. What "Tricks" will Mayweather impose on Canelo? Elbows?
    This comment shows just how much people know nothing about boxing.

    Mayweather has routinely beaten harder punchers. Boxing is about timing, not just power and combinations.

    Your entire comment reeks of one who is moved by fireworks and sensationalism. There is a subtle beauty to the sweet science and only the very best ever demonstrate it.

    Floyd has fought the best in every division. He isn't undefeated because he has bad habits and cannot adjust.

    Canelo is a young kid with lots of power and a willingness to trade. However he lacks savvy and looks to unload big shots. Against the best defensive boxer maybe ever, he opens himself up to plenty of counter shots.

    Hell, Lopez wasn't doing bad offensively and he got up every time he was knocked down. Lopez had no real means of defense except for putting his hands up and moving his head in maybe 2 rounds if I'm being generous.

    Of course Canelo can unload against a boxer who stands straight up and has little to no footwork, lateral movement and can't slip and counter. That won't be the case with Mayweather who is elite at those things.

    Some people think that Mayweather's performance against Cotto shows that he's somehow slower. I saw Mayweather standing and picking Cotto apart in the pocket with Cotto barely able to land anything cleanly. Cotto was absolutely game, but he was landing in the 20% range despite being in the pocket for most of the night.

    Now THAT'S telling you something about Floyd's ability to nullify a fighter's offense.

    I like Canelo. He's impressive. He's young and he's got lots of fire in his heart. Still, he's still a bit too rough around the edges to contend with Floyd at this point. And unless Floyd unknowingly deteriorated during his stint in the clink, there's no indication that Canelo will have any better chance than Floyd's other top rated opposition.

    I'd love to see it though, but it will have no effect on anyone's perception of Floyd. Only a loss will satisfy those who are so jealous that they actually NEED Floyd to lose in order to justify their beliefs that he isn't as good as he's proven over the years by fighting the very best in every division and remaining undefeated.

    Its the same thing that some did with Roy Jones. The man was a phenom and he took the boxing world by storm. Still, despite ruling with an iron hand naysayers said that Jones was overrated and no matter who he beat or what division he went up to nothing was ever enough.

    Jones did it without having to use catchweights. He beat every champion that was willing to fight him under reasonable terms. He was thee man to beat after beating nearly everyone available.

    And when he came down from HW and was clearly diminished after having done so, the jealous, envious haters said the same things about him that they will about Floyd if and when he eventually loses. Its all they have to look forward to because no one that they've ever supported thus far has been able to beat him.

    They're waiting for Floyd to get older. They're waiting for some young puncher like Canelo to get lucky on a day that Floyd might be slipping.

    Quite frankly, its pathetic. Instead of appreciating greatness they instead wait for the day that someone stops history in the making.

    You know, things really haven't changed much from the days when similar envious people acted like the second coming of Jesus had come when Max Schmeling defeated Joe Louis who, at the time, was representing the USA.

    People are who they are.

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      Originally posted by Imatroll View Post
      I think at this point in Mayweathers Career, with the decline, and how he looked against the Slower Cotto, Canelo gives Mayweather a beating.

      Mayweather does not have the power at 154lb to slow Canelo down. Mayweather doesn't use his legs anymore, he likes to lean against the ropes to rest, while attempting to dodge bullets.

      What do you guys think? I'd be surprised if Mayweather took the Canelo fight. I don't think he wants it.
      Don't get it twisted. Mayweather was sick going into the Cotto fight. If he's anything like I an when I'm sick, then he was not as energetic as he needed to be. You can clearly hear that he was sick during the final press conference. You can see the vaseline in his nose when the ref face instructions. He had slowed down a bit but the Cotto fight could mislead people into thinking he has slowed more than he actually has. Canelo would get beat bloody and bruised. Oscar knows this. At 35 going on 36, Floyd is still fresh and sharp. He could keep any fighter on the end of his jab very easily. Canelo isn't exempt from being another victim. Let us not forget that Canelo got his bell rung by Jose Miguel Cotto on the undercard of Mayweather-Mosley. Jose Miguel Cotto was a 140lbs fighter fighter at 147. Canelo almost got KOd by him. He has progressed but not enough. He's studying Floyd's game and I can tell by the pull counter he hit Lopez with on Sat. Floyd spanks him.

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        Originally posted by Imatroll View Post
        How is Mayweather going to slow down Canelo? He doesn't have the power, he doesn't throw many combinations. As I mentioned above Mayweather loves to lean against the ropes, he will eats shots all night. What "Tricks" will Mayweather impose on Canelo? Elbows?
        You just gave me a great laugh on a Monday morning.... thanks!

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          I didn't reply to this thread until now since I thought just by looking at the OP's name it was pretty obvious what this thread was.

          14 pages later... here we are.

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            I think Canelo has the goods to beat Mayweather....I ROFL when I heard some guy say Floyd has faced the best lol he waited for the guys to be coming downhill and/or ducked the best real challenges!

            The way Cotto was coming on in some of the rounds, I think Canelo can do better and counter Floyds Defense; catch him along the ropes and get thru his shoulder roll!

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              Yer because the blue print to beat Floyd has been evident in gingers game by beating grampa Mosley, a journeyman being Ricky Hattons ******** brother, and a 140 pound generic fight night mexican.

              Plus he beat Kermit the frog, ATG with or without Mayweather.

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                Originally posted by Imatroll View Post
                I think at this point in Mayweathers Career, with the decline, and how he looked against the Slower Cotto, Canelo gives Mayweather a beating.

                Mayweather does not have the power at 154lb to slow Canelo down. Mayweather doesn't use his legs anymore, he likes to lean against the ropes to rest, while attempting to dodge bullets.

                What do you guys think? I'd be surprised if Mayweather took the Canelo fight. I don't think he wants it.
                I think if Alvarez was anywhere close to having the skill to beat Mayweather, GBP would have put him in the ring with Cotto, Trout, K-9 Bundrage or someone close to being a top 10 contender at 147 or 154 instead of putting him in he ring with a no-name journeyman who was fighting at 140 two fights ago. After the Paul Williams fight fell through, Alvarewz he had plenty of other quality fighters who were willing to face him and who called him out. The fact that they put him in the ring with a guy who couldn't beat the best at 140, let alone 154, is no accident.

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                  Pshhh...this is just the Chavez vs. Martinez hype all over again. I'll just ignore it. I mean the most special thing about Canelo is his hair color. But that doesn't make him capabkebof being a great fighter. If his handlers thought he was that, his resume would be more reminiscent to Oscar's or Floyds when they were his age than it is to Chavez Jrs. The fact is they are building him into a money fighter and not a great fighter and that's for good reason.

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                    What signature win does Canelo has that he can be gauged how he is going to do against top competition?

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                      Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post
                      What signature win does Canelo has that he can be gauged how he is going to do against top competition?
                      Shane Mosley? lol

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