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    #51
    Martinez and Lara.

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      #52
      Nobody at 154. I think Martinez has the best shot but I would rather Floyd move up to MW and fight him in his last fight. If people want to see him lose that's what they would want too. Martinez at 154 is the most dangerous but if I had to bet money I would say Floyd at JMW but Martinez at MW.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Mannie Phresh View Post
        You can choose Amir Khan to Canelo Alvarez. Sergio Martinez claims he can mae 154 and I believe him. You got Erislandy Lara to Timothy Bradley. THrow out names you believe can beat Mayweather now. Hes 35, less ring generalship than years past, and his strength at 154 isnt ko'ing everybody. WHos on your short list if your smart? Is it Manny Pacquiao, Sergio Martinez, or Alvarez? Who beats Floyd?
        Floyd doesn't have less ring generalship than in the past..

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          #54
          Originally posted by NearHypnos View Post
          Do you even watch boxing?


          Martinez's right jab is a missle. matthysse rolls with his ounches and catches the majority with his glove. He gets hit clean also, but nowhere near as much as you make it out. Marg wasnt ever as cagey as Lucas or as powerful a puncher..or as good to the body. Marg was just a tank.

          Howd that Martinez - Lee fight go anyway? Musta missed it

          Martinez doesnt throw punches though? In terms of a "slick" fighter Martinez throws a lot of punches...from my memory he throws closeto 700 a fight except against Macklin. Not bad for a middle weight "counter" puncher.


          Anyway, Floyd is better than Martinez but is he good enough to beat him at that weight? Martinez is good enough to make a


          Also, someone mentioned Matthysse grtting outboxed by Zab... Floyd did too at times its not like theres shame in that. Zab on a good night is a sight.


          Anyway Matthysse needs to show me more against someone else before I put him in the category as a good challenger to the throne. Hes proved to be more than hype...but he's not in the conversation just yet when mentioning Floyd and the elite guys. Another big fight and win will probably change that.
          Really ok heres whats real and undenyable.

          Did Serg campaign at 154 before?
          -yes for about 7 years

          Was Serg ever considered an elite fighter?
          -hell no and looked very average against bums like Cintron.

          I think Serg is too old to make 154 personally. Now hed sleep in a suana suit for a fight with Floyd. Who wouldnt? But there are other fights at 154 besides Floyd (Canelo, Kirkland, Lara, etc.) Much better than anybody at 160 minus Chavez Jr. Why not go after those guys? IMO I dont think Serg makes 154 without draining himself. Hes better off at 160 where hes better physically.

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            #55
            Originally posted by danceswithfire View Post
            140?..if the fight happens at 140, id favor mathysse and the winner of rios vs alvarado over him for sure...


            Everyone missed this

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              #56
              Canelo, GGG, Martinez

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                #57
                Originally posted by Capaedia View Post


                Everyone missed this
                you must 've misssed the floyd vs chavez fight to not know what makes him look bad....add to fact that floyd would'nt be a healthy fighter at 140 ....so before you laugh , look in the mirror and ask yourself "do i know what im talking about"?

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by danceswithfire View Post
                  you must 've misssed the floyd vs chavez fight to not know what makes him look bad....add to fact that floyd would'nt be a healthy fighter at 140 ....so before you laugh , look in the mirror and ask yourself "do i know what im talking about"?
                  What's your scorecard for the Chavez fight, and who won?

                  Also, are you Harold Lederman?

                  Either of those dudes could attack Floyd on the street at the age of 60 and they'd still get outboxed.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Capaedia View Post
                    What's your scorecard for the Chavez fight, and who won?

                    Also, are you Harold Lederman?

                    Either of those dudes could attack Floyd on the street at the age of 60 and they'd still get outboxed.
                    why are you so concerned about my scorecard instead of what you saw in the fight..thats if you really saw the fight...chavez was a lil guy yet , he did what he did..now with an unhealthy floyd againts a bigger version of chavez (in that fight) what you think would happen (from a logical point of view) and having to really have seen the fight...

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                      #60
                      NONE OF THEM! Mayweather UD them comfortably IMO

                      Sergio give him the most problems tho, also think Austin Trout with that consistent JAB would also give Mayweather some problems but he still find a way to beat them all

                      Forgot about Brad Solomon, I would pick him to UD anybody at 147 right now other then Mayweather but he would give Mayweather some MAJOR PROBLEMS

                      Mayweather in ring IQ is still very high, he can adapt to any style within 4-5 Rounds and once he figures you out he is going to put on a Clinic
                      Last edited by KnockUTheFukOut; 09-12-2012, 10:25 PM.

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