How is Pac still ranked P4P #1 on BS?

[Marvellous1]

What? So now Pacquiao should remain number one for not fighting a top welter/champion since Cotto and actually losing as well? All because he "took a risk" fighting someone he was expected to demolish" from a lower division? This gets better and better.....

[george benton]

Yes Floyd dont give no hopers, or the Rockies and Buster Douglas of this world to upset him. That way we could really downgrade him, and he cant risk that.

So you want him to go fight some guy coming of of a **** performance and a loss??yea im sure you will be giving him all the credit in the world for that.....man just stop cause you making yourself look less than smart

[george benton]

The truth is, Mosley, Cotto, Margarito and Clottey were the top 4 ranked welters right before Pac went to welter. He beat them back to back in under 2 yrs, no Sharmba Mitchell tuneups required. Mosley is probably his weakest win in years, fully comparable to Wards 3rd best career win in AA. How does losing his no 1 spot (or championship belt, whatever) to p4p Floyd push him out of top 5? Who did you have ahead of him, Zaveck and Senchenko?

Did he fight them then or after they all were coming off of loses??only fight i'll give him credit for is Cotto and he wouldnt even fight him without a catchweight even tho he had already fought Oscar at 147

[HeroBando]

Nice try HeroBrando. I said NUMBER ONE, not top five or six (especially when coming off losses or showing poor form).

Cotto also said he's never doing to his body what he had to do the first time he fought Pacquiao. I guess that extra pound made a difference, even if we don't know how. Or else, why ask for it in the first place?

Anyway, you can't blame a person for getting confused by Manny and Roach's stance on weight. One minute Mosley's too good to face at 147lbs, a beatdown and a draw later, he isn't. After that.... lower division fighters are the order.

You did say number one, I misread. Well he's beaten 2-5, that's gotta count for something when the fight with the number 1 seems impossible to make.

I told you why he asked for a cw, it was as reasonable a cw request as it gets. I gave you 3 examples of totally unreasonable cw requests that nobody ever whines about.

Cotto can say whatever, he was out of the fight by round 5. If you think weight loss played a part, fine, didn't stop him from covering a whole lot of ground in retreat from Pac for 6 rounds. How's his negotiations with interim wbo champ at 156, any news?

[HeroBando]

That's a horrible way to look at it. You should be ashamed of yourself. On what planet was Antonio Margarito a top welter when Manny fought him? Shane Mosley hadn't won a fight in nearly THREE years when Manny fought him. You must be an alt of some sort because I can't imagine any reasonable boxing fan making such a silly, d*ckriding argument. What are your other name(s) on here?

Again I make a statement of fact, and again you've got issues with it. I suggest you take it up with the history books

[george benton]

You did say number one, I misread. Well he's beaten 2-5, that's gotta count for something when the fight with the number 1 seems impossible to make.

I told you why he asked for a cw, it was as reasonable a cw request as it gets. I gave you 3 examples of totally unreasonable cw requests that nobody ever whines about.

Cotto can say whatever, he was out of the fight by round 5. If you think weight loss played a part, fine, didn't stop him from covering a whole lot of ground in retreat from Pac for 6 rounds. How's his negotiations with interim wbo champ at 156, any news?

So why did he fight Oscar at 147?and refused for fight Cotto at 147,thats all i want to know

[HeroBando]

So why did he fight Oscar at 147?and refused for fight Cotto at 147,thats all i want to know

I addressed this earlier, here it is again:

Probably cause ODLH was a non title bout against a non welter contender, and he promptly moved down afterwards. It didn't make him a legit welter, nor could it make him confident in his ability to take punches from real welters like Cotto, ODLH barely even landed anything. Put in in the context of Pac fighting at 130 1 1/2 yrs earlier, and it's not a difficult one to explain.

For some headscratchers, see these:

1. PWill asking to fight for Sergio's lineal title at a cw. And that's after dragging SM up to middle in the first place
2. ODLH requesting to unify his (stolen) mw belt at a cw
3. Cotto requesting to defend his sww belt and no 1 ring rating against a one eyed bum at a cw. It's gotta be unprecedented, don't you think?

[george benton]

I addressed this earlier, here it is again:

Probably cause ODLH was a non title bout against a non welter contender, and he promptly moved down afterwards. It didn't make him a legit welter, nor could it make him confident in his ability to take punches from real welters like Cotto, ODLH barely even landed anything. Put in in the context of Pac fighting at 130 1 1/2 yrs earlier, and it's not a difficult one to explain.

For some headscratchers, see these:

1. PWill asking to fight for Sergio's lineal title at a cw. And that's after dragging SM up to middle in the first place
2. ODLH requesting to unify his (stolen) mw belt at a cw
3. Cotto requesting to defend his sww belt and no 1 ring rating against a one eyed bum at a cw. It's gotta be unprecedented, don't you think?

So basically he felt he needed to drain Cotto to beat him..thats all you had to say

cause all the examples you posters were people trying to get an advantage.just say it he wanted a clear advantage

[IMDAZED]

Again I make a statement of fact, and again you've got issues with it. I suggest you take it up with the history books

Facts don't equal truth, d*ckhead. Learn the difference between the two. And it's also fact that Shane Mosley hadn't won a fight in nearly three years at welter. That Margarito hadn't won a fight against a ranked contender in nearly three years as well. And it's fact you're using an alt.

[HeroBando]

So basically he felt he needed to drain Cotto to beat him..thats all you had to say

cause all the examples you posters were people trying to get an advantage.just say it he wanted a clear advantage

Can you blame him for not being too confident? If we got back one year, he was probably a 10-1 underdog to Cotto, you'd have been ridiculed here if you suggested he beats Cotto at any weight. Heck there was a time when people though Juan Diaz would put an end to him.

But to everyone's surprise turns out he can take a welterweight punch. Lots of guys chins failed them before their 7th weightclass.