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    #51
    Originally posted by APryor View Post
    Yeah, it's funny how so many people are so ready to swallow everything now being said by Ortiz' manager and trainer... HOOK, LINE AND SINKER.

    What is the manager supposed to say? What is his trainer supposed to say? That Ortiz has no heart? Is that what people expect his own manager and trainer to say about him?
    Ortiz mouth was hanging open and people who watched the fight say he was adjusting his jaw and fighting with his mouth open. I think I may even have saw the punch that broke his jaw but could be wrong but I did see some punches that made his jaw bone move.

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      #52
      Originally posted by APryor View Post
      I just hope Lopez gets the bigger paycheck. He's earned it. Ortiz on the other hand, has had everything handed to him (not in life, talking about his boxing career).
      TRUE he Very well Deserves it. If Not Move Around Clown!
      Ortiz has been given more than one chance to prove himself since QUITTING against Maidana and still Pulls his Dirty Moves and Theatrics.

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        #53
        Originally posted by APryor View Post
        Abraham's jaw looked much worse (although looks can be deceiving I guess).

        And it was the result of a headbutt, not a punch, so you know the German commission could have fixed **** for him if they tried to pin him with a loss.

        Abraham has a lot of heart. Ortiz does not.
        Well, we know that Ortiz had to have surgery and a titanium rod put in. Did Abraham have surgery for his broken jaw?

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          #54
          hey I take back what I said about Ortiz that he wasn't a Chingon!! He's a gran Chingon!! much respect to Ortiz and hope to see him fight that rematch with Lopez, that says alot that victor ain't no punk, plus most would'nt show as much heart like he did in the ring, fighting on with a broken jaw.

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            #55
            Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
            Ortiz mouth was hanging open and people who watched the fight say he was adjusting his jaw and fighting with his mouth open. I think I may even have saw the punch that broke his jaw but could be wrong but I did see some punches that made his jaw bone move.

            Abraham's mouth was also hanging open, and had much more swelling. His jaw was broken by an accidental head butt. It looked way worse... I watched both fights.

            Ortiz' trainer was right there. He wanted Ortiz to tough it out for the last three rounds (of course now he has to do damage control for the sake of Ortiz' career). Too much was on the line... Obv the Sept 15th fight was a wrap, but his career has now taken a serious hit. I doubt he ever gets to fight Canelo now.

            No one disputes his jaw was ****ed up. Personally, I don't remember his mouth hanging open at all times. Probably because he closed it with his hands and I didn't notice. But he wasn't constantly fighting with an open mouth like Abraham was and the swelling wasn't quite as bad.

            I realize he had a messed up jaw and that it must have hurt like hell. But he's the first I've ever seen quit due to a broken jaw. And this was a fight where quitting due to pain just should not have been an option. Only three rounds left, up on the cards, against a smaller man whose eyes were messed up (one eye swollen shut), Ortiz having revived his career, big fight(s) lined up, etc. This was like a special circumstance where you don't quit unless the doctor looks at the break and tells you that you can't safely continue.

            Furthermore, he's already told us how he views his boxing career in the interview after quitting against Maidana. He doesn't feel he should take punishment. He's too intelligent and good looking for that.
            Last edited by APryor; 06-25-2012, 04:40 PM.

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              #56
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
              Well, we know that Ortiz had to have surgery and a titanium rod put in. Did Abraham have surgery for his broken jaw?
              Yes, he did. And I believe he has titanium in his jaw, although I am not sure. I will look it up now.

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                #57
                Naysayer with poles in their mouths right now after reading this...ortiz has heart. A person w/o that could not have made it through his early life. Hope he annilates lopez in the rematch!

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by APryor View Post
                  Yes, he did. And I believe he has titanium in his jaw, although I am not sure. I will look it up now.
                  From Wikipedia:

                  On 23 September 2006, Abraham won a decision against undefeated contender Edison Miranda despite having his jaw broken in two places in round five. Miranda took advantage of this by fighting dirty. Miranda was deducted five points for landing repeated low blows as well as intentionally headbutting Abraham. However, even without the five points deducted, Abraham would have still won the fight (final result: 114:109, 115:109, 116:109). Abraham's jaw was operated on the night after the fight. He had 22 screws inserted into two titanium plates. After the Miranda bout, Arthur was praised for his ability to finish the fight despite his injury.

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                    #59
                    Can't wait to see Ortiz in a rematch with Lopez, I have no doubt Vic is going to unleash hell on Josesita Lopez. WARTIZ!!


                    Where are all the internet warriors who were claiming Ortiz got his jaw broken in the 9th and is a quitter? Guys like The BRINGER, who is nothing more but some punk a$s white boy burn out stoner (I've seen his pics) were crucifying Vic before they knew any of the facts.

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                      #60
                      Maybe Ortiz just has a super surgeon, but Abraham has two plates and 22 screws in his jaw. I guess he is lucky he didn't "bleed out" and die right in the ring

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