Does a prime George Foreman KO a prime Vitali Klitschko?

[StarshipTrooper]

Funny how these threads always brings out the usual nuthugging 'tards ever so willing to to display their ignorance and abject hero worship of the Klits :chuckle9:

Look at how everything gets redefined to big up their heroes:

Slow and plodding is called "fast" now.....
Clumsy and mechanical magically becomes "superb" footwork.....
A three inch reach deficit suddenly morphs into a "reach advantage".....

Oh, I almost forgot!

TKO losses miraculously transform into "wins".....

The examples are endless. It would almost be amusing, the contortions they go through, if it wasn't so God damned sad

[A_Jeffrey]

Funny how these threads always brings out the usual nuthugging 'tards

I agree lol

[StarshipTrooper]

I agree lol I'm a nuthugging 'tard.

^^^^^ Case in point.

[BKM-2010]

for all those debating the sanders rocking vitali,,,

fighters get rocked,, especially when they arent prepared for it, or dont think it will happen,,

vitali knew lewis drops bombs, and was mentally prepared for it,,
vs sanders, i think he got surprised but recovered and beat him

You will see this in a bunch of fights if you watch boxing long enough,, to say vitali got rocked by sanders, therefore foreman would ko him, isnt logical thinking,,, Lewis hits harder than sanders and wasnt able to rock vitali, even with a brutal uppercut,,, and vitali was able to knock lewis down, even though they traded blows, and lewis had been dropped by lesser fighters like rahman and mccall,,,

When your not mentally prepared to feel bombs, and then you do by surprise, then yes you get rocked,, but if you know the guy hits hard and you come mentally prepared for it, then you have a better chance of not getting rocked

Rewatch the fight. It's more than just the one moment where Sanders stuns and drops Vitali. It's the way Vitali looked dealing with a strong, aggressive good puncher. Of cource Vitali smashed him eventually but Sanders wasn't in best shape and simply punched himself out. I am not impressed with the way Vitali handled his second most dangerous foe, a foe that is not even on the radar when it comes to ATG big, strong punchers while Prime Foreman is way on the top of the mountain.

[BKM-2010]

Funny how these threads always brings out the usual nuthugging 'tards ever so willing to to display their ignorance and abject hero worship of the Klits :chuckle9:

Look at how everything gets redefined to big up their heros:

Slow and plodding is called "fast" now.....
Clumsy and mechanical magically becomes "superb" footwork.....
A three inch reach deficit suddenly morphs into a "reach advantage".....

Oh, I almost forgot!

TKO losses miraculously transform into "wins".....

The examples are endless. It would almost be amusing, the contortions they go through, if it wasn't so God damned sad

My favorite has got to be the fool who said Foreman was "only" 6'3 and that he couldn't cut off the ring. I think somebody cut off the oxygen to his brain before he posted that.

[StarshipTrooper]

My favorite has got to be the fool who said Foreman was "only" 6'3 and that he couldn't cut off the ring. I think somebody cut off the oxygen to his brain before he posted that.

Lol you're giving that person FAR too much credit for having a brain: That dude has no brain cells needing oxygen and he's simply stealing oxygen from the rest of us :hahahaha9:

[Boxing Goat]

I think Foreman is easily one of the most overrated heavyweights in history. I don't know what it is, but people need to look at the statistics. Heavyweights in that era were just physically smaller. Foreman is only 6'3. When you watch his fights, he's normally the bigger man in comparison to his opponents. It'll give you the delusion that he is much bigger and stronger than his post-80's heavyweight counterparts.

Foreman honestly couldn't box very well. He didn't show up with a game plan outside of trying to knock them out. He didn't have more than one dimension. Honestly, all he did was stalk his opponents. He couldn't even cut off the ring. Often times you'll even see lesser fighters tee-off on Foreman before Foreman eventually catches them. He was just a brute. He didn't set up punches. He would just overwhelm you. A lot of times you can see him even hitting his opponents with his forearms due to how sloppy he was. Also, lets remember, Foreman was a 6 round fighter. If he didn't KO you before round 7, you had nothing to worry about for the rest of the fight. Foreman's power was more overwhelming thudding blows, more so than concussive one shot knockouts (Tommy Hearns-esque). A lot of his knockdowns/outs featured pushing, off-balance tackles, forearm bashing, and leg-tangling..

I honestly don't see Foreman ever catching a 6'7 Ukrainian who's exceptional at playing keep-away for a full 12 rounds all the while gassing opponents out. I see Vitali actually winning via late round TKO after Foreman runs out of steam.

Stellar post from somebody who actually gets it. Well said.

[Boxing Goat]

I dont see how you can call someone overrated that was a 2-time lineal heavy champ, in the 2 deepest eras seperated by 2 decades,,,,,

He was overrated because he is 5-4 in title fights and beat little guys.

The Frazier win was great only because Frazier beat Ali. Without that, It was just a style disparity. I rank his comeback great as well but it still took him 3 trys to get a title.

Foreman did special things, but he is overrated overall.

[Boxing Goat]

Wrong....

Lewis got complacent. He was training to fight a little, slow fat Kirk Johnson, it was a rare "gimme" that Lewis took (though the Tyson fight was not exactly a challenge at the time it was made). Read up on it ok? Lewis came in at his absolute worse preparing for an opponent that he would truly have no problems with. Stop revising history! It does not work that way, or maybe it does and your time line is different? But in the general consensus we call reality Lewis took a fight with a bear when he was training to fight a mouse.

I was referring to "watch" as in watch the tapes.

Little and slow Kirk Johnson? Compared to whom? He was neither and was a serious threat. Lewis had just as long as Vitali did to prepare so that theory goes out the window.

While you were at it, you basically just admitted that Vitali made Lennox retire.

[Boxing Goat]

And exactly who else has he fought that challenged that "superb footwork?" Sam plodeter? or maybe....chris Sparrow?, fat Corey needs susanders?....A fat out of shape Lewis?

Heres the proof young un...Lewis though an ATG for sure, was a stone cold plodder. I often thought Lewis could ko himself by getting his feet crossed. What was the superb footwork of Vitali able to accomplish exactly? He might have beat Lewis if he had half the movement skills of some guys instead of allowing Lewis to turn it into a battle of attrition. But he couldn;t do that. Could he?

Based on this response I don't think we can continue an intelligent conversation any longer. Sorry.