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ESPN's Dan Rafael: MAYWEATHER-Cotto Will "Blow Away" Pacquiao-Bradley
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Originally posted by Fvck LamarSmith View PostTBH I know for sure Pacquiao vs Bradley will do over 50-60 million.....but honestly I just care about a good matchup.
I get what your saying, and I like you as a poster, however I'm just saying I'm tired of these two guys trying to do numbers instead of facing the best fighters out there.
The Ortiz fight was a huge risk...and one that paid off for Floyd. He took a virtual nobody to the boxing casuals, and generated a huge payday.
Two fights that absolutely cemented Floyd's primacy:
- Floyd-Marquez at 1.1 million when everyone predicted 500-600K.
- Floyd Ortiz when no casual fan knew Ortiz, and he had never been in a big fight.
After those two performances (box-office wise), anyone who questions Floyd's commercial status is either very biased...or very daft. Or both.
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostSo then why can't you answer them here? I'd love to hear why and for your sake, I sure hope it doesn't contradict that previous post of yours. Again, why didn't Pacquiao-Cotto do the same amount? Pacquiao-De La Hoya, a million less than Mayweather-De La Hoya?
2. He had some of the highest selling PPV's at 130 and 135, however those divisions are as watched at division such as WW, MW etc (amongst casual ppv buying fans).
3. Most everyone thought Pacquiao vs De La Hoya was a joke and a cherry pick
There are several other obvious reason....but those are the main ones.
How about you answer my question, since I was respectful enough to answer yours?
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Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View PostMost people thought Pac-Oscar was some kind of freak show event for starters....
Mayweather vs Cotto vs ODLH vs Hatton vs mosley all outsold more than Manny in total revenue and total PPV buys. Please outline the reasons why each one did so????
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A lot of that is timing also. Pac Hoya was in Dec, you know what people do around that time. Floyd Hoya again was May 5 weekend, biggest boxing weekend for Mexicans. Floyd has fought 5 out of his 6 latest fights on major Mexican holidays and making sure he has a Mexican partner or a big Mexican name in the co-main event.
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Well, Pacquiao is fighting Tim Bradley, who is a very good fighter but doesnt really have any fanbase.
Not to mention a popular attraction like Alvarez vs Mosley will not be on the undercard either, at least as far as I know.
I know you nutjobs like to make believe its not true, but the quality and draw of the opponent effects the amount of PPVs when a 'name' guy like Pac or Mayweather fights. Mosley may not have a loyal fanbase on his own, but he is definitely a 'name' opponent, one that would catch the attention of fans when he fights and get them interested.
Pac or Mayweather couldnt just go fight some nobody like Gabriel Rosado and expect to get over a million PPV buys...
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Originally posted by Gino Ros View PostDitto.
The Ortiz fight was a huge risk...and one that paid off for Floyd. He took a virtual nobody to the boxing casuals, and generated a huge payday.
Two fights that absolutely cemented Floyd's primacy:
- Floyd-Marquez at 1.1 million when everyone predicted 500-600K.
- Floyd Ortiz when no casual fan knew Ortiz, and he had never been in a big fight.
After those two performances (box-office wise), anyone who questions Floyd's commercial status is either very biased...or very daft. Or both.
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Originally posted by Gino Ros View PostSoooo, Pacquiao fans were boycotting that fight ?
Who is "people"?
That was the public perception. Whereas the public perception for Mayweather-De La Hoya was that it was a pretty even fight. The fight to "save boxing". It had much more hype around it. And that's just one reason.
I know you don't think objectively on this subject though so Im probably wasting my time.
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