Ray leonard says in an interview he and thomas hearns would have knocked out floyd &

[Bushbaby]

the level of talent in the sport nowadays ( and the sport in general ) is kinda lame compared to the time of leonard and hearns...

dominant reign of HW champ larry holmes , MW marvin hagler, FW eusebio pedroza and JFW wilfredo gomez...

michael spinks was on his LHW ATG run with saad-muhammad and mustafa-muhammad...

leonard, hearns, benitez, mccallum and a slowly and steadily declining roberto duran patrol the WW and JMW divisions...

pryor and arguello begins their rivalry...

difficult to imagine MP or PBF scaling the weight classes and succeeding in a stacked sport as this one last time in the 82...

I think the talent is there. It's just the many alphabet trinkets lying around give Floyd & Pacman many opportunities to gain championship status without fighting the best fighters in each weightclass.

Like Floyd now. If there was 1 championship title at 154, Martinez could easily have owned it & Floyd couldn't fight Cotto for a title. Then when Pacman fought at 135 he'd have fought Cassa instead of Diaz or no title.

Then there's the case of star power. Fact is superstar fighters have the ability to choose who they fight. That's why solid fighters like Trout at 154 don't get the call to fight Canelo. But a shot to hell Mosley does.

Then again it's the boxing fan that is to blame. Floyd & Manny have a strangle hold on the top 2 pfp spots for years, both fight at 147, both have massive fan bases, however their fans by all their garbage fights without them fighting each other & do more fighting for their fighters than their fighters do in the ring.

That's why on my personal pfp list, I have none higher than #3 pfp. And I support other fighters who don't have the luxury to cherrypick like they do.

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Ray Leonard would have won. Mayweather skipped a lot of boxers to say he could have beat Leonard. Hearns would have beat him to and if he ko's Pac than he also ko'ing Mayweather.

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I think the talent is there. It's just the many alphabet trinkets lying around give Floyd & Pacman many opportunities to gain championship status without fighting the best fighters in each weightclass.

Like Floyd now. If there was 1 championship title at 154, Martinez could easily have owned it & Floyd couldn't fight Cotto for a title. Then when Pacman fought at 135 he'd have fought Cassa instead of Diaz or no title.

Then there's the case of star power. Fact is superstar fighters have the ability to choose who they fight. That's why solid fighters like Trout at 154 don't get the call to fight Canelo. But a shot to hell Mosley does.

Then again it's the boxing fan that is to blame. Floyd & Manny have a strangle hold on the top 2 pfp spots for years, both fight at 147, both have massive fan bases, however their fans by all their garbage fights without them fighting each other & do more fighting for their fighters than their fighters do in the ring.

That's why on my personal pfp list, I have none higher than #3 pfp. And I support other fighters who don't have the luxury to cherrypick like they do.

I agree. ........

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the level of talent in the sport nowadays ( and the sport in general ) is kinda lame compared to the time of leonard and hearns...

dominant reign of HW champ larry holmes , MW marvin hagler, FW eusebio pedroza and JFW wilfredo gomez...

michael spinks was on his LHW ATG run with saad-muhammad and mustafa-muhammad...

leonard, hearns, benitez, mccallum and a slowly and steadily declining roberto duran patrol the WW and JMW divisions...

pryor and arguello begins their rivalry...

difficult to imagine MP or PBF scaling the weight classes and succeeding in a stacked sport as this one last time in the 82...

Not sure if Floyd would fight any of these guys once he won a title. Maybe at 130 where he was the most dominate but even than he still missed a few fighter that he should have fought.

[IronDanHamza]

You don't win rounds by running.....Oscar found that out against Trinidad :cool9:

Poet

I don't call what Mayweather was doing running.

I consider running what Pastrano did against Johnson and ironically they gave Pastrano the decision. Now that is what you call bull****.

The Mayweather-Oscar fight was a clear victory. He pretty much dominated the fight IMO.

[nicamarvin]

Pac demolished Hatton who gave Floyd hell, even with Cortez turning a blind eye to Floyds dirty tactics and pulling hatton up on everything.

Pac finished hatton similar to how SRL finished dave boy green except hatton was better than green.

So Pac>srl>floyd.

these paktards make my day, I will go ahead and put this on my sig..

[AlwaysOnTop]

sugar ray would most definatly knock out mayfeather jr just like he knocked out his big mouth father but there is no way in hell hes knocking manny out !!!!!!!!!!!! btw who ever rote that article is a dummy !!!! they are saying mayfeather would win because he has great defense and sugar wouldnt be able to hit him ~!!!!!! but the last time i checked floyd sr teached floyd jr how to have defense !!!! and we all know what happened when sugar faced his father

Ray would stop Pac faster than he would Floyd....you should be the last one talking smack in this thread..

At least Floyd would make them break a sweat..