Comments Thread For: Bradley Says Mayweather is The Best, Not Pacquiao

[hugh grant]

Like I have stated from the very start, I am simply stating the fact that Pacquaio only became P4P #1 because the previous P4P #1, Floyd Mayweather, had retired.

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And i'll say it again, Floyd retired at the right time, as Pac was going to take his no1 p4p spot, and it wouldnt have taken Floyd to lose to lose his no1 spot. Throw away your rule book about the laws of being no1 p4p unless you lose out of the window because it doesnt apply when someone comes along like Pac did and shakes up the world like Ali claimed he did.

If Pac is doing amazing things and given credit him becoming no1 was inevitable and it wouldnt take Floyd to lose. So if Pac contined to perform outstandingly, taking risks went up weight to fight BH and beat him, Floyd would remain no1 in your eyes as he didnt lose?

Stop living in fantasy land, no matter how many times you say Pac wouldnt ever be no1 if it wasnt for Floyds retirement i dont believe you believe that anymore after the 100th time youve said it than the first time. So stop repeating yourself in the hope that you will eventually believe it. Because anyone else believing it isnt in the equation and never will be.

[pbftxrs316]

this is nothing new----bradley has called manny the best until it comes to floyd---hell, go on youtube----he said floyd is scared to figh thim but would beat manny easy-lol

he doesn't know what to say anymore--we all know floyd whoops manny's ass--this is not news---floyd is the best and has been the best--he makes it look easy---no matter who he fights---

[pbftxrs316]

And i'll say it again, Floyd retired at the right time, as Pac was going to take his no1 p4p spot, and it wouldnt have taken Floyd to lose to lose his no1 spot. Throw away your rule book about the laws of being no1 p4p unless you lose out of the window because it doesnt apply when someone comes along like Pac did and shakes up the world like Ali claimed he did.

If Pac is doing amazing things and given credit him becoming no1 was inevitable and it wouldnt take Floyd to lose. So if Pac contined to perform outstandingly, taking risks went up weight to fight BH and beat him, Floyd would remain no1 in your eyes as he didnt lose?

Stop living in fantasy land, no matter how many times you say Pac wouldnt ever be no1 if it wasnt for Floyds retirement i dont believe you believe that anymore after the 100th time youve said it than the first time. So stop repeating yourself in the hope that you will eventually believe it. Because anyone else believing it isnt in the equation and never will be.

stop kidding yourself---some people had manny number 1 p4p until floyd stopped hatton--now manny fought jmm in 2008 and people felt he lost that fight---but, with floyd gone and calzaghe fighting an old roy jones jr, people were sketchy as to who to choose---joe left the sport, and floyd decided not to rematch oscar--and had he done so, manny wouldn't of had anywhere to turn--so it didn't matter anyway---but floyd opted not to rematch oscar because oscar tried to hog the money and floyd's money hungry like no other in the sport so it didn't happen--oscar looked awful against forbes at 150--some said it was the style, so who better to challenge him at 147 than manny, who in turn moved up 2 weight classes to do so---but, made oscar come down to a weight class he had not fought at for 9 years----let's be honest here--oscar was to blame for this--he thought he would bully manny---even though oscar was the name still at the time, his aura was close to gone---but of course 24/7 made oscar look legit coz of his size and experience at the weightclass---imAGINE HOW BAD FLOYD WOULD HAVE BEAT HIM IN THE REMATCH, HAD IT BEEN AT 147--MAN OH MAN--

anyway, manny made oscar, who walked around at at least 165, come down to 145 fight night--he could not rehydrate up in the fight--again, oscar's fault---he had the power to stop this, but wanted this fight so bad to get his name back up there in terms of legit fighters, that he gave into manny's demands, and freddy made no secrets about how bad oscar looked---

this made manny----and then he fought hatton at 140, yes, but let's be real here folks---hatton changed trainers for the pacquiao fight and had to get floyd's father to help with his defense only to not listen to a damn thing he told him--that was hatton's fault, not floyd sr's....hatton was almost ko'ed or at least kd by the fighter he fought after floyd with the same left check hook he got caught with by floyd in rounds 8 and 10----and this was at 140---he looked sloppy against paulie---and hatton, albeit made his reign at 140, his only name there was kosta---who he wrestled to death---

let's not forget folks---hatton wanted to no parts of floyd at 140 lbs----he was at the gatti massacre....and that's what it was---with all due respect to arturo--i mss him dearly--always will, but floyd laid into him---ricky said he was not ready for floyd--he balloons up and down in weight all the time--walking around at times 180---so fighting floyd at 147, where hatton already won a title, really was no big deal--seeing how ricky started at 140, whereas floyd started at 130---ricky was the naturally bigger man anyway with manny and floyd---why didn't manny fight hatton at 147---or oscar at 154---hatton's best weight class was 140 in terms of fights, but he looked stronger at 147 when he fought floyd and oscar did also at 154---but, manny wanted hatton's title i guess, so, so be it---

anyway, i think you get my drift--

[hugh grant]

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Be more succint no i dont get your drift.
According to a Floyd fan on this forum you have to lose a fight to lose your p4p no1 status and it dont matter if you either dont fight regularly, or perform real bad, and the no2 p4p fighter in the world performs amazingly against the people you performed average against you will stay at no1 p4p?

In some exceptional some cases when the p4p no1 and no2 in the world are in totally different weight classes ( for example if Nonito donaire was no1 and BH was no2, it might have to take Nonito donaire to lose for BH to become no1) but when no1 and 2 are hovering around the same weight and fighting the same people and can be compared more accurately against each other, like for like, it dont apply.

If Pac beats Floyds opponents better and dont move above Floyd in the rankings, and beats people Floyd wouldnt fight amazingly, youd think Pac was being robbed in daylight robbery. You cant accept that would happen in a fair world and shouldnt accept it, in the real world it would be called discrimination

The moral of the story, Floyd was on his way to losing his no1 p4p status before he retired. And he shouldnt have retired anyway if he was going to fight again and he always knew he was going to fight. Lets say he didnt retire, but took 2 years layoff, he would lose his no1 spot, you have to fight if you want credit. Pac retired hatton and DLH so the common sense approach is for Floyd to destroy and retire Pac in return. Were still awaiting floyd to enter the building.

[IronDanHamza]

And i'll say it again, Floyd retired at the right time, as Pac was going to take his no1 p4p spot, and it wouldnt have taken Floyd to lose to lose his no1 spot. Throw away your rule book about the laws of being no1 p4p unless you lose out of the window because it doesnt apply when someone comes along like Pac did and shakes up the world like Ali claimed he did.

If Pac is doing amazing things and given credit him becoming no1 was inevitable and it wouldnt take Floyd to lose. So if Pac contined to perform outstandingly, taking risks went up weight to fight BH and beat him, Floyd would remain no1 in your eyes as he didnt lose?

Stop living in fantasy land, no matter how many times you say Pac wouldnt ever be no1 if it wasnt for Floyds retirement i dont believe you believe that anymore after the 100th time youve said it than the first time. So stop repeating yourself in the hope that you will eventually believe it. Because anyone else believing it isnt in the equation and never will be.

Irony and denial.

Fantastic.

[nicamarvin]

According to a Floyd fan on this forum you have to lose a fight to lose your p4p no1 status .

this ****ing ******* makes no sense, but then again all *******s are delusional..


here is Pac exposed again

[RealDentist]

this ****ing ******* makes no sense, but then again all *******s are delusional..

[hugh grant]

Irony and denial.

Fantastic.

If its onlly yourself you are trying to convince say it to yourself in your own head.

Floyd not being able to lose his no1 spot unless he loses is one of the most far fetched and delusional comments ive ever heard from a person pretending not to be a floyd fanatic.
Again just keep telling yourself that and hey you may eventually believe it. I doubt it but you never know.

[IronDanHamza]

If its onlly yourself you are trying to convince say it to yourself in your own head.

Floyd not being able to lose his no1 spot unless he loses is one of the most far fetched and delusional comments ive ever heard from a person pretending not to be a floyd fanatic.
Again just keep telling yourself that and hey you may eventually believe it. I doubt it but you never know.

If Manny Pacquaio doesn't lose until he retires, he will remain P4P #1.

The same applied for Mayweather in 2007.

The same applied for Bernard Hopkins when he lost his P4P #1 spot to Mayweather in 2005 by losing to Jermain Taylor.

The same applied for Shane Mosley in the early 00's.

This is generally how it works. The same applied for the very first official P4P #1 fighter, Mike Tyson.

This fact seems to elude you, unfortunately. I can't say I'm surprised.

It doesn't surprise me you can't accept that Pacquaio lived pretty much his entire career ranked behind Floyd Mayweather. And only became #1 P4P because Mayweather was no longer there.

But like I said, these facts genuinely mean nothing. It's a mythical rankings, it means nothing.

Which again refers back to your original point of being "ranked higher on the P4P list makes you superior" is once again, for the umpteenth time in this tvery thread, flawed and damn near ******ed logic.

[JustScrap]

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