Nothing against Garcia....but does Ortiz NEED to go to Roach to reach the next level?

[-Johannes-]

Lol Roach...I feel that he's doing fine with Garcia. He likes the attention he gets with Garcia and Roach wouldn't give it to him. Bottom line is he could do well if he adopts a different mentality. Plus Roach is overrated.

[TheMexHurricane]

Nothing against Garcia....but does Ortiz NEED to go to Roach to reach the next level?

wachugot???????

Yes because Roach didn't let Penalosa continue getting unnecessarily pummeled by Juanma and Garcia let Margarito get unnecessarily pummeled by Pacquiao. That tells you everything you need to know about the quality of their minds.

[gauze]

Yes because Roach didn't let Penalosa continue getting unnecessarily pummeled by Juanma and Garcia let Margarito get unnecessarily pummeled by Pacquiao. That tells you everything you need to know about the quality of their minds.

LOL, you suck kid! the quality of their minds? what the hell does that even mean haha. thats not even the same garcia that trains ortiz.

[ChiRock773]

the problem isn't the trainers the problem is ortiz, when the going gets tough, ortiz will headbutt you or quit like a b!tch.

that's where a strong coach comes in....he lacks discipline and a trainer like roach or nacho beristain can teach him discipline....sort of like Phil Jackson with the Bulls and the Lakers....Ortiz has talent he just needs mental discipline and toughness..

[Young Money]

Danny Garcia is probably too nice on the kid since it's all he's got.

Victor needs to see a sports psychologist.

[Sifo]

Yes because Roach didn't let Penalosa continue getting unnecessarily pummeled by Juanma and Garcia let Margarito get unnecessarily pummeled by Pacquiao. That tells you everything you need to know about the quality of their minds.

your not even talking about the same people

[MurkaMan]

Nothing against Garcia....but does Ortiz NEED to go to Roach to reach the next level?

wachugot???????

Ortiz is an EXCELLENT FIGHTER...He just doesnt know how to adjust to his opponents...his skills are in tact...I dont want to hear about him losing at jr ww, cuz he's not that potent at that weight class...NO ONE can beat Ortiz at ww..he's too big, strong, fast, and skilled, so roach wont do anything for Ortiz, except ruin him, or tamper with his style

[MurkaMan]

No when I look at Victor Ortiz I don't think ''What a technically flawed fighter'', I think of a fighter who could be great but lacks the mental strength. Zab Judah if you will.

Exactly...he's the perfect fighter, but no other oppoent is going to bring out his mental flaws, because no other opponent can beat him at ww...Ortiz will be in few situations where his mental problems become a factor, because he will most likely beat everyone in his class

[Dedication]

Why do so many people have an obsession with Roach? Beejeesus!

[Unknown Champ]

Yes because Roach didn't let Penalosa continue getting unnecessarily pummeled by Juanma and Garcia let Margarito get unnecessarily pummeled by Pacquiao. That tells you everything you need to know about the quality of their minds.

Red k sent. Wrong Garcia Brother, newb smh