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    #61
    Martinez COULD be number 3, but it's a distant third and for anyone else for that matter. It's the same situation in terms of drawing power you have Pac/May and in third place is Cotto but it's a distant third. Martinez is overrated if you ask me, he had two good wins but Williams was also extrememly overrated at #3 when they fought. I said he was a KO waiting to happen and while it I was expecting it to happen I wasn't expecting it in such brutal fashion. Pavlik was an alcholic when they fought and while we didn't know it at the time it's something that has to be taken to account. As well as the fact that Pavlik in the middle rounds was taking control of that fight, then he got busted open.

    As for size... Sergio says he is a small MW, but to me he is coming in much bigger than 160 on fight night. Sergio is WAY more shredded than Cotto and he has 3-4 inches on him and Cotto comes in at 155-160 max. No way Sergio is at 165, he is at 170-175. He's not much smaller than someone at 168 he's just shorter than them, but he has no chance against Ward, not the way Pavlik figured him out to an extent anyway. But even if he what he says is true that he is small for MW then 154 would be a target weight. Well... he's moved up 1 or 2 divisions Manny and Floyd 7 or 8 and you are asking them to move up where they each only had 1 fight!? The guy is delusional now, he is fine making 1-2 million a fight without risking too much. That's fine with me where can I sign up? But coming out saying he wants to fight the best... make a catchweight with Ward/Froch/Bute someone if he were to win, THEN he'd be a lone #3 P4P in my book. If he were to get more wins at SMW then he could be #1. He won't do it though so, oh well.

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      #62
      Originally posted by WESS View Post
      Correct me if i'm wrong.

      But out of 52 fights, 12 where below 147. The rest where above 147. He was a legit JMW/LMW Champion that has moved up to become the MW Champion. He hasn't been to WW for over a decade now.

      I see what your saying though by pointing out that Sergio started out lower than 154 and actually fought under the WW limit at one point. I was just stating that he became a legit Champ at JMW where he was a hometown champ at WW.
      He never won a belt at WW, hometown or not. At JMW, he won an interim one against Bunema, defended once against Cintron, got promoted to full champ and moved up. Not one defense.

      I know that he was being ducked at 154 (maybe including the WBC full champ Forrest), and moved up partly for that reason, but facts are, he wasn't really a legit champ at 154.

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        #63
        Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
        He never won a belt at WW, hometown or not. At JMW, he won an interim one against Bunema, defended once against Cintron, got promoted to full champ and moved up. Not one defense.

        I know that he was being ducked at 154 (maybe including the WBC full champ Forrest), and moved up partly for that reason, but facts are, he wasn't really a legit champ at 154.
        My over all intent of my original post was that Sergio was a career JMW as he fought more fights at JMW and was more of a "champ" at JMW than WW.

        He was a career JMW who started out as a WW and is now the MW Champion. That is impressive and unlike the thread topic, I do not believe he is over rated.

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          #64
          Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
          He never won a belt at WW, hometown or not. At JMW, he won an interim one against Bunema, defended once against Cintron, got promoted to full champ and moved up. Not one defense.

          I know that he was being ducked at 154 (maybe including the WBC full champ Forrest), and moved up partly for that reason, but facts are, he wasn't really a legit champ at 154.
          neither was pac beating an unranked margarito and not defending it afterwards.

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            #65
            Originally posted by chiguy91 View Post
            neither was pac beating an unranked margarito and not defending it afterwards.
            Right, there's hardly even any *******s that claim him as a legit JMW champ

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              #66
              lol nonito #3? p4p? HAHAHAHAHAHA

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                #67
                Noticed that mods seem to be biased towards Sergio.

                You can accuse Cotto and Lampley of being gay(a "cotto is gay" tread had been active for over a year) , but you can't point out that Sergio is even more likely to be that than either of those guys.

                It got me banned

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Mohammedini View Post
                  Noticed that mods seem to be biased towards Sergio.

                  You can accuse Cotto and Lampley of being gay(a "cotto is gay" tread had been active for over a year) , but you can't point out that Sergio is even more likely to be that than either of those guys.

                  It got me banned
                  Who cares about being g@y! Does any boxer being g@y take away from what they have accomplished in the ring?

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                    #69
                    Sergio Martinez is only overrated by the 15 internet fans he has.

                    Nobody in real life knows who the hell he is. Which is why he has no PPV dates, no big shows, nothing. He can't even sell out an elementary school cafeteria.

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