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    #51
    Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
    Still doesn't change the fact that there are currently 3 concenous top 5 pfp fighters that have all held titles at 154 & there is only one of them willing to fight the other 2. I think there are fighters at 160, or even 154 given half the chance that can beat Martinez, but he isn't the only overrated top pfp fighter out there.
    An argument could certainly be made for Andre Ward being a Top 5 P4p fighter. Do u think Sergio has any interest in fighting him?

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      #52
      Originally posted by Chopper417 View Post
      An argument could certainly be made for Andre Ward being a Top 5 P4p fighter. Do u think Sergio has any interest in fighting him?
      I have Ward higher than all 3. But no I do not think Martinez fights him. I don't think he ventures above 160 period.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
        I never said You said it. My point is that everyone gets overrated. But some preffer to dish out passes & make crazy claims. Hell right now I have a new found belief that Chavez due to his size might just give Martinez the business.

        However there are 3 top 5 pfp fighters still capable of fighting at or around 154 & there is only 1 of them willing to do it & thats Martinez.
        So then why is his next fight at middleweight?

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          #54
          See, I told you so.

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            #55
            Martinez is THE MW Champ, Floyd and or Pac must have said they wanted to fight this guy...

            "Fans" already trying to discredit him in case either one fight him...

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              #56
              Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
              I have Ward higher than all 3. But no I do not think Martinez fights him. I don't think he ventures above 160 period.
              Most people here do not know that Martinez is a career JMW who is shorter than De La Hoya and Margarito.

              He already moved up from JMW to MW and is THE Champ there. He's not getting any younger and is looking to get paid. Nobody above JMW is going to give him that retirement pay check he's looking for.

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                #57
                The way Martinez destroyed Williams, made Pavlik a bloody mess, and blasted through Dzinzuruk, gets him a spot in the top 5 at least.

                The top 3 fighters for me, are Mayweather, Ward, and either of Marquez or Martinez.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by WESS View Post
                  Most people here do not know that Martinez is a career JMW who is shorter than De La Hoya and Margarito.

                  He already moved up from JMW to MW and is THE Champ there. He's not getting any younger and is looking to get paid. Nobody above JMW is going to give him that retirement pay check he's looking for.
                  He has about the same amount of fights at 147 that he does at 154.

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                    #59
                    To quote Max Kellerman:

                    "He's the REAL Middleweight Champion."

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
                      He has about the same amount of fights at 147 that he does at 154.
                      Correct me if i'm wrong.

                      But out of 52 fights, 12 where below 147. The rest where above 147. He was a legit JMW/LMW Champion that has moved up to become the MW Champion. He hasn't been to WW for over a decade now.

                      I see what your saying though by pointing out that Sergio started out lower than 154 and actually fought under the WW limit at one point. I was just stating that he became a legit Champ at JMW where he was a hometown champ at WW.

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