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    #31
    Originally posted by Stl_Buay View Post
    Floyd walks around at 150 and Cotto is a small JrMW. Manny walks around at 142 and eats like a horse and has yet to weigh in at 147. Even weighed in at 144.5 for 150 pound fight against the 5'11" Margarito... Manny gave up 17 pounds in the ring that night... Trust me Cotto will not outweigh Floyd by more than 5 pounds fight night... So to give a guy credit to fight someone his same size is crazy... BTW, why does everyone want Manny who never even weighed 147 for a WW fight yet to fight Cotto at 154??? Why haven't these same people ask his peers, Barrera, Marquez, and Morales fight at 154 hell they don't even fight at welter. But, when it comes to hating Pacquiao why let something like facts and common sense get in the way.... Manny has yet to weigh 147 for a fight yet so why should he fight above 147??? Hasn't the man moved up enough??? In order for Floyd to make the same jumps in weight as Pac he would have to fight at 168... Just accept the fact that Floyd is bigger than Pac and that's why he can fight a small JrMW like Cotto...
    My question is: why won't Mayweather fight Martinez at 154? That is way more of a challenge than Cotto. Neither Pacquiao or Mayweather or Cotto want Martinez at 154.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Einstien View Post
      Your joking right
      yes...........

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        #33
        Originally posted by disolly View Post
        pac made cotto cut 2 pounds, in the his fight before pac where he fought clottey he weighed 146 against manny he weighed 145. dont get me wrong i think weight can be a big factor, but do i blame manny for doing it, not at all, it was his first real WW fight, and it was against a dangerous talented one in that.
        that being said, i think cotto looked great coming into the fight and early rounds before pac started beating on him hard. and the most annoying part is that i really do think that it would have been the exact same outcome had the fight been at 147.
        Originally posted by blindsideyou View Post
        Mayweather is demanding Cotto to weigh in at 154 at weigh in?
        Originally posted by walakabro View Post
        You obviously don't know **** about boxing! I agree that Cotto never really had any trouble making it down to 145, I think he came in healthy on fight night and didn't look drained at all. Most of the time, fighters come out and state whether making weight was an issue, and we haven't heard anything from Cotto of that nature. But coming in at 154 is definitely an advantage to Cotto because he can train comfortably the way he wants to, as well as come in with the weight advantage on Money May on fight night. And this is a fight where weight does matter, because he's going to try and break Money May down with a strategy that I predict is going to be a combination of the Castillo and De La Hoya when they fought against Mayweather. Cotto's going to use a stiff jab to back Mayweather and keep him off balance much like De La Hoya did, then try and break him down to the body and rough him up against the ropes much like Castillo did. And Cotto is going to need all the weight and energy he needs to sustain it throughout 12 rds. And the higher weight is going to allow him to consume enough calories and maintain enough hydration to do that. You obviously have never had to make weight for a fight so you wouldn't know what it's like to cut weight for a fight. And don't try to fake the funk like you do, because there's a lot of actual fighters like myself out there that can spot a fraud. You're a ****in' a Pacquiao **** sucker who never into boxing until you saw Pacquiao fight. I like both Mayweather and Pacquiao, but at the same time I know how to see it for what it is, and I'm not biased.
        Originally posted by Machingo69 View Post
        Wow Dude!!! Your so dumb that you don't realize how ****** you made yourself look with that comment you posted. Cotto is not going to be bloated and fat at 154lbs. Quite the contrary, he's going to be very comfortable with his weight and strong...

        Wess, you are the definition of a moron hahahaha.
        hook, line, and sinker...

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          #34
          he has to be happy for the fight, regardless whos fighting its on HBO, he must promote the event. nobody asked for mayweather-cotto to fight, it doesnt matter if Floyd wins by KO, it doesnt enhance his resume at all, Pacquiao already trashed Cotto so Floyd isin a no win situation, if he wins big ****in deal if he losess though hel be the laughing stock of boxing.

          pacquiao has the tougher opponent in bradley, but he will win due to his speed.

          at the end of both fights, the first question will be ''when will mayweather-pacquiao happen''..

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            #35
            Originally posted by hillbilly View Post
            My question is: why won't Mayweather fight Martinez at 154? That is way more of a challenge than Cotto. Neither Pacquiao or Mayweather or Cotto want Martinez at 154.
            martinez is fighting in march thats why, unless hes able to regroup and train for a may fight which he wont be. out of floyd and manny, floyd is the only one that has expressed interest in a martinez fight.

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              #36
              Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
              Mayweather knows Manny wont fight at 154. So If he wins...its his way out again! He will agree to the money but make Manny go up to 154. What other fight is their for him at 147? That will generate cash? Fighting Cotto is his ticket. I hope he runs into the beating of his life.
              Even if your right Since when doe Pac fans care about a fighter getting an advantage by manipulating weights?

              Why would anyone be angry about a bully getting bullied?

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                #37
                Originally posted by hillbilly View Post
                My question is: why won't Mayweather fight Martinez at 154? That is way more of a challenge than Cotto. Neither Pacquiao or Mayweather or Cotto want Martinez at 154.
                Not to make it look like Money is all about his fans, but

                IMO, Martinez V Mayweather would look pretty damn boring if you really stopped to think about it. Just stop, and think about it.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Rapid Counter View Post
                  You are high off your t1ts if you think pac walks around at 142. Where is the proof? As far as I've heard he walks around in the mid 150's. Proof or your post is garbage
                  Prove yours, My proof was Ariza, Roach, and Arum in interviews and 24/7. So ball is in your court? Surely you have proof since you brought proof into the conversation. Where is your proof to counter the proof I just gave you and please don't tell me someone who doesn't know Pacquiao and have no way of knowing. I gave you three guys in his camp... Now, where's your proof???? You have none, let me guess, you've heard...

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by disolly View Post
                    pac made cotto cut 2 pounds, in the his fight before pac where he fought clottey he weighed 146 against manny he weighed 145. dont get me wrong i think weight can be a big factor, but do i blame manny for doing it, not at all, it was his first real WW fight, and it was against a dangerous talented one in that.
                    that being said, i think cotto looked great coming into the fight and early rounds before pac started beating on him hard. and the most annoying part is that i really do think that it would have been the exact same outcome had the fight been at 147.
                    You cannot say it would be the same outcome because your only basing that on seeing him get beat while handicapped , we would have got a good look had Manny not ducked him now without the CW , if you think without bias just look at 2 very important facts , Roach would not let Manny fight him at 147 , he DEMANDED 145 or NO fight , and now he proved he will walk away if Miguel does not take his CW ,,,,,,,come on , they obviously believe the CW is crucial to winning !!

                    And Cotto said , " I will not sacrifice my body again for Pac " this doesnt lend itself to Miguel be in his strongest best condition does it ?

                    And just to add , if you are an elite athlete right down on your weight , on the edge ,,,, 1 pound more will really hurt you ,,, thats a fact !!

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