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    #91
    Originally posted by The Surgeon View Post
    I must admit there is a little too much smoke coming out of the Wild Card for there to be NO fire.....

    I think Chavez is on EPH...

    i'll have to check around to see if i'm familiar with EPH. it doesnt sound like something i've heard of.
    and if chavez is using you've got to figure that ariza is at least aware of it. there are a bunch of intuitive leaps after that that i really dont want to even entertain.

    i will be absolutely gutted if i find out that manny pacquiao has been using illegal drugs to make his jump to WW


    he'll go from one of my favorites to a place saved for margarito and resto

    can you even imagine?
    remember the fuccking beating's he laid out on cotto, oscar, hatton, clottey?
    those guys were never the same after those fights. he should be thrown in jail if he's been using drugs.
    i refuse to even entertain the idea that manny pacquiao is on drugs,
    but can you imagine the aftermath if it came out that he was using them?

    i honestly cant imagine what it would do to his legacy, the sport, the phillipines etc

    cheating in boxing isnt like cheating in golf, that's for sure.
    Last edited by New England; 02-08-2012, 04:37 PM.

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      #92
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
      Not really. Arum started this by essentially trying to take food out of the mouth of Ariza's family. Alex should hit back however he can.
      Wasn't Ariza criticising Arum publicly? Somehow Ariza doesn't really fit the status of victim.

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        #93
        Originally posted by New England View Post
        i'll have to check around to see if i'm familiar with EPH. it doesnt sound like something i've heard of.
        and if chavez is using you've got to figure that ariza is at least aware of it. there are a bunch of intuitive leaps after that that i really dont want to even entertain.

        i will be absolutely gutted if i find out that manny pacquiao has been using illegal drugs to make his jump to WW


        he'll go from one of my favorites to a place saved for margarito and resto

        can you even imagine?
        remember the fuccking beating's he laid out on cotto, oscar, hatton, clottey?
        those guys were never the same after those fights. he should be thrown in jail if he's been using drugs.
        i refuse to even entertain the idea that manny pacquiao is on drugs,
        but can you imagine the aftermath if it came out that he was using them?

        i honestly cant imagine what it would do to his legacy, the sport, the phillipines etc

        cheating in boxing isnt like cheating in golf, that's for sure.
        Co-sign, but it's all unsubstantiated.

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          #94
          Originally posted by New England View Post
          i'll have to check around to see if i'm familiar with EPH. it doesnt sound like something i've heard of.
          and if chavez is using you've got to figure that ariza is at least aware of it. there are a bunch of intuitive leaps after that that i really dont want to even entertain.

          i will be absolutely gutted if i find out that manny pacquiao has been using illegal drugs to make his jump to WW


          he'll go from one of my favorites to a place saved for margarito and resto

          can you even imagine?
          remember the fuccking beating's he laid out on cotto, oscar, hatton, clottey?
          those guys were never the same after those fights. he should be thrown in jail if he's been using drugs.
          i refuse to even entertain the idea that manny pacquiao is on drugs,
          but can you imagine the aftermath if it came out that he was using them?

          i honestly cant imagine what it would do to his legacy, the sport, the phillipines etc

          cheating in boxing isnt like cheating in golf, that's for sure.
          Horrible thought.

          I wouldnt say i think Manny has been on PEDS but then i couldnt say with any certainty he hasnt been either...

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            #95
            Yeah EPH is banned, it ads short term performance and is mainly for weight loss

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              #96
              Originally posted by New England View Post
              i'll have to check around to see if i'm familiar with EPH. it doesnt sound like something i've heard of.
              and if chavez is using you've got to figure that ariza is at least aware of it. there are a bunch of intuitive leaps after that that i really dont want to even entertain.

              i will be absolutely gutted if i find out that manny pacquiao has been using illegal drugs to make his jump to WW


              he'll go from one of my favorites to a place saved for margarito and resto

              can you even imagine?
              remember the fuccking beating's he laid out on cotto, oscar, hatton, clottey?
              those guys were never the same after those fights. he should be thrown in jail if he's been using drugs.
              i refuse to even entertain the idea that manny pacquiao is on drugs,
              but can you imagine the aftermath if it came out that he was using them?

              i honestly cant imagine what it would do to his legacy, the sport, the phillipines etc

              cheating in boxing isnt like cheating in golf, that's for sure.
              if it blew up into something like this, it would be a sad time for boxing

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                #97
                Originally posted by I'm so sorry View Post
                if it blew up into something like this, it would be a sad time for boxing


                he left ricky hatton on death's door

                straight up
                the next step beyond being knocked out that badly is a coma or death


                if he used PEDs to do that he's a violent criminal

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
                  Co-sign, but it's all unsubstantiated.


                  absolutely

                  i refuse to accuse him of anything at this stage
                  even if chavez and ariza are outed.


                  right now i'm only speculating on the impact of something like that being true
                  it would be one of the biggest stories in sports. pacquiao could very well be charged with crimes if proof were to come up that he's been using drugs against past opponents

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by New England View Post
                    i'll have to check around to see if i'm familiar with EPH. it doesnt sound like something i've heard of.
                    and if chavez is using you've got to figure that ariza is at least aware of it. there are a bunch of intuitive leaps after that that i really dont want to even entertain.

                    i will be absolutely gutted if i find out that manny pacquiao has been using illegal drugs to make his jump to WW


                    he'll go from one of my favorites to a place saved for margarito and resto

                    can you even imagine?
                    remember the fuccking beating's he laid out on cotto, oscar, hatton, clottey?
                    those guys were never the same after those fights. he should be thrown in jail if he's been using drugs.
                    i refuse to even entertain the idea that manny pacquiao is on drugs,
                    but can you imagine the aftermath if it came out that he was using them?

                    i honestly cant imagine what it would do to his legacy, the sport, the phillipines etc

                    cheating in boxing isnt like cheating in golf, that's for sure.
                    That would be the absolute worst scenario that could happen to the sport. It isn't entirely out of the realm of possibility, Conte has even singled out boxing along with cycling as being some of the sports most rampant with PED abuse too.

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                      Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
                      That would be the absolute worst scenario that could happen to the sport. It isn't entirely out of the realm of possibility, Conte has even singled out boxing along with cycling as being some of the sports most rampant with PED abuse too.
                      If any other athlete in any other sport, made that kind of leap in months, flat out turned down a test, made up a bunch of lies and unscientific theories as to why he wouldn't be tested, was trained by someone who worked with other PED users...what would you think?

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