no ones denying FLoyd is talented even if he loses to Cotto. But he is a fraud in the sense that he hasnt fought often enough and avoided challenges when there were real challenges. Never took risks so he is seen as a fraud.
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IF Cotto beats Floyd, will Floyd be exposed??
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Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Postnever understood that term "exposed" when used for pro's in their 30's like pac & floyd and have proven their talents over and over again throughout their careers.
exposed is usually a saying for hyped up prospects or protected fighters who are taught a boxing lesson or chin checked by a vet or whatever.
But didn't Floyd fight DLH at 154, so wouldn't this be Floyd's 2nd fight at WW instead of first?
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Originally posted by hugh grant View Postno ones denying FLoyd is talented even if he loses to Cotto. But he is a fraud in the sense that he hasnt fought often enough and avoided challenges when there were real challenges. Never took risks so he is seen as a fraud.
Fighting Corrales was a risk. Giving up all the advantages when he fought DLH was a risk & there have been a few others I think but that's all I can think of off the top of my head.
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Originally posted by P4P_No1 View PostI'd have to disagree that he's never taken risks.
Fighting Corrales was a risk. Giving up all the advantages when he fought DLH was a risk & there have been a few others I think but that's all I can think of off the top of my head.
Most of his so called risks were when he was trying to make a name for himself, but when he became a somebody in boxing he has plodded along and coasted. The easy part is getting there, the hard bit is staying there supposedly is the saying.
He also retired, knowing full well he would return, so was just a token gesture. What game was he actually playing? The avoiding dangerous fighters game is what id call it? Anyone who retires knowing full well they will return is a fraud! He had to retire as the heat was getting too hot in the kitchen and he hoped people would stop pressurinzing him to fight people.
If he loses to Cotto, Floyd will be a fraud. A talented fraud at that.Last edited by hugh grant; 02-04-2012, 07:39 AM.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View Postno ones denying FLoyd is talented even if he loses to Cotto. But he is a fraud in the sense that he hasnt fought often enough and avoided challenges when there were real challenges. Never took risks so he is seen as a fraud.
What risks has Pacquiao taken?
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It depends. If Cotto can point to and exploit some weaknesses in Floyd and give a blueprint how to consistently beat him, then yes.
But people need to understand how probability and variance works. Even if Cotto comes in and blows Floyd away in 3 rounds to earn a KO, that IS SUPPOSED to happen a small amount of time even if Floyd is a much better fighter.
Floyd is only 5/1 in this fight. As such if they fight 6 times he should win 5 and lose 1. (rough odds, i think hes 5/1 but not 100% sure)
Pick up a die and see if you can hit a '6'. That's how likely Cotto is to win with the parameters we have available right now.
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Mayweather Jr is already Exposed;
His real Character been exposed in Court;
His attitude towards Pacman been exposed too:
After Pacman agreed to that "Take The Test"
He said "I don't need Pacquaio"
Then, he called up Pacman and Pac said 50-50 equal sharing;
He rejected and offered a 40M flat fee which is not reasonable as Pacman has all the resume to show that he deserves 50-50; Koncz offered a 55-45
with the winner getting 55%;
Mayweather jr rejected it and chose to fight Coto!
Mayweather Jr is eating his own words by fighting Pacman' left over!
Regardless on who wins the fight, Mayweather Jr goes to Jail...Last edited by Rolaz; 02-04-2012, 09:05 AM.
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Originally posted by Ishy Aytan View PostWhat risks has Pacquiao taken?
Asking fighters to step up 2 divisions isnt taking a risk. Fighting in your own country isnt taking a risk. Asking the referee to protect you isnt taking a risk. Not willing to fight someone without a PED isnt taking a risk, not to mention sucka punching people and being happy with that as its in the rule book on a tecnicality.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostAnyone who fights regularly is taking a risk. Beating the likes of Barrera, JMM, and Morales is taking a risk as they are better fighters than Floyd has ever fought. Fighting in a division higher than your normal weight is a risk. People who retire when the heats get a bit hot isnt taking risks like floyd..
Asking fighters to step up 2 divisions isnt taking a risk. Fighting in your own country isnt taking a risk. Asking the referee to protect you isnt taking a risk. Not willing to fight someone without a PED isnt taking a risk, not to mention sucka punching people and being happy with that as its in the rule book on a tecnicality.
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