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I think we can all agree, Mayweather-Canelo > Pacquiao-Bradley.

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    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
    The fact is he is not a brawler. Like I said try watching his fights first before commenting on the subject.
    Oh he's not? I guess the head butting just comes from him doing his best imitation of Roy Jones

    You're style tends to favor one or the other

    Instead of you continuing saying that, how about you shed some light on his style. Maybe its obvious you haven't watched his fights
    Last edited by Champ Is Here; 01-31-2012, 12:46 AM.

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      Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
      LOL @ Saul Alvarez all of a sudden being a threat with KO power.
      Matthew Hatton once said he couldn't believe how hard he hits, that he hits incredibly hard.

      I have to agree, he's heavy handed.

      The way he literally manhandled a decent sized middleweight in Ryan Rhodes convinced me there is more to Canelo than people give him credit for.

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        more ******ed look what they did in their last fight instead of looking at total resume ***** logic. bradley dominated a faded casamayor and canelo dominated a faded cintron but when you actually look at their total resumes..........bradley destroys him by far but i guess *****s only have short term memories which explains why they think baldomir is so great.

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          Originally posted by daggum View Post
          more ******ed look what they did in their last fight instead of looking at total resume ***** logic. bradley dominated a faded casamayor and canelo dominated a faded cintron but when you actually look at their total resumes..........bradley destroys him by far but i guess *****s only have short term memories which explains why they think baldomir is so great.
          True but we got to look at boxing as a business not a sport.
          If this fight is a done deal it's a very good move by Floyd.
          Big $$$ nice pay day for both and will most likely beat a Pac V Bradley PPV
          if that fight were to happen.

          That will also give leverage to Floyd for the pac fight if they were to negotiate behind the scenes that is.

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            Style wise Floyd/canelo will be boring and easy for Floyd. Canelo has a low ass workrate and tries to counter punch. Floyds more agressive of late but his lack of punching power will ensure nothing will happen. Canelo probably won't land anything on Floyd.

            Pac Bradley will be good for 5-6 rounds, Pacquiao will kill him in a fire fight.

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              Originally posted by them_apples View Post
              Style wise Floyd/canelo will be boring and easy for Floyd. Canelo has a low ass workrate and tries to counter punch. Floyds more agressive of late but his lack of punching power will ensure nothing will happen. Canelo probably won't land anything on Floyd.

              Pac Bradley will be good for 5-6 rounds, Pacquiao will kill him in a fire fight.
              Floyds power is underrated, the dude can **** when he wants to. I do think Floyd will cruise to victory, he'll look very good.

              As for Pac Bradley, Bradley could cause problems for Pac, I think everyone knows not to brawl with Pac now.

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                I think Bradley-Pacquiao would be great for a few rounds, like fight of the year type of good, then it's gonna get ugly.

                Pacquiao darts in
                Bradley lunges in with his head
                Southpaw VS Orthodox

                has all the ingredients for an ugly finish.

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                  Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                  If Pac fights Bradley and Floyd fights Alvarez.

                  For the first time in 09' Pac would have out done Floyd as far as picking legit opponent goes.
                  i agree with this. unless its cotto at 154 no pu$$y a$$ catchweights. cottos still a better opponent at 154 than canelo.

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                    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                    If Pac fights Bradley and Floyd fights Alvarez.

                    For the first time in 09' Pac would have out done Floyd as far as picking legit opponent goes.
                    Completely agree. If Alvarez beats some good opposition this year I'd be happy to see him fight Floyd in 2013, but as of now he hasn't done anything to warrant a fight with a guy who's been dominating the sport since 1998.

                    Originally posted by Pretty Boy32 View Post
                    Let's face, Canelo coming off a great knock out victory of Kermit Cintron,
                    Who ain't exactly a walkover.

                    Bradly struggled with an old ass Casamayor.

                    Mayweather-Canelo will be a war as Floyd continues to fight the very best in the business,
                    While Manny just fights nobodies and lines Arums pockets.

                    Floyd is the true P4P king.
                    I'm a Mayweather fan (Floyd's my 2nd ffoat) and I also believe that he's the goat, but I have to disagree with this.

                    Cintron is a dead man walking, and prior to that Canelo didn't look particularly good in his controversial stoppage of Gomez.

                    And Bradley in no way struggled against Casamayor. It was an ugly fight to watch (during the fight I had to take a bathroom break but I was so bored I ended up doing a quick bit of housework and missed rounds 4 and 5) but it was an ugly fight that Bradley dominated.

                    Originally posted by Champ Is Here View Post
                    Bradley is a better version of Clottey

                    Still flat footed and not as fast as Pac. You are about to witness one VERY boring fight. Pac struggles with counter punches and those who moves

                    Cong**** to Tim for getting the fight. He was promised it by old ass Arum. Good luck
                    I've only seen Bradley's fights against Alexander and Casamayor so I'm no expert on him, but from what I've seen I don't agree with him being particularly similar to Clottey.

                    But I agree with you that the Pac fight will be boring. Although Bradley has decent movement from what I've seen he doesn't have the timing, power and counter-punching ability that Marquez does. imo it will play out a lot like Pacquiao Mosley, Pacquiao will come foward throwing punches in bunches and Bradley's movement will make Pacquiao miss, however Bradley will be unable to land anything significant himself and Pacquiao will win rounds on aggression.

                    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                    No I don't, I think his power is overrated. The best thing Canelo is timing more so than Power.

                    His power got overrated in the Baldo fight. But, against an elite fighter, first of all he hasn't faced any. But, even the fighters below elite he hasn't shown game changing power.
                    I thought I was the only person who thought Canelo's power was overrated, glad I'm not alone.

                    I find Canelo really unusual (particularly for a Mexican fighter). He is intelligent, has good (if not great) power, picks his shots well, has good counter punching and also has solid (if still untested) defense. However, he is also one of the slowest fighters I've seen at LMW, he often telegraphs his punches, and one thing I've noticed is that quite often (this is particularly noticeable in the Gomez fight) is that when he can't find that perfect counter he becomes very inactive and gives rounds away by not throwing enough.

                    He still has a lot of potential, but right now he isn't ready for a Mayweather fight.

                    Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
                    I don't think intangibles are enough for him to win. I don't think he is good enough for that to really make the difference. Although I agree he has all those intangbles

                    Bradley does have stamina to equal those two, but what is he going to do with that stamina, all the stamina in the world won't do any good if it can't be applied to win a fight.

                    I agreee that Manny has gone Hollywood, but I disagree that Bradley is a guy that can really expose that in a meaningful way (meaning coming out the victor). I doubt Manny will be impressive but one can look average and win, also one can look average and never really be in danger of losing.

                    We'll see
                    Agreed.

                    As I said above, Bradley will be able to make Pacquiao miss but won't be able to make him pay. Pac will throw 500-700 punches and Bradley will throw 300-400, and Pac will win by being the more active fighter.

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                      is may cotto off the books?

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