Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Pacquiao: 50-50 Split is The Breaking Point

[Ray*]

Until the media, HBO, boxing fans and the rest actually stand on their feet and reject this two fighting other people and making demands that keeps this fight from happening then we would never see this fight.

[IronDanHamza]

Not that I think he should get more than 50-50, but, if anyone were to be entitled to more than 50-50 it's obviously Mayweather.

That being said, has anyone from Mayweather's camp addressed the 'email' yet?

[edgarg]

How is not possible to have a 50-50 split?

How much they have to pay with that split is irrelevant of them getting the 50/s0 split.

You get a 50/50 split. Floyd gets his half, Pac gets his half. Whoever and how much they have to pay with their HALF of the purse is on them. But, the point is that they start of with HALF of the purse.

JRos it's impossible to talk common sense to these crazies. They make wild statements with no foundation- like Pacquiao having "to pay most of his purse to Arum", when it's a known fact, many times stated and confirmed, but ignored by them, that Arum gets 27%, just over a quarter, for which he works out all the knotty and troublesome things, without which there' wouldn't be any purse at all. He deserves every cent he gets, and Top Rank, in the course of doing their job, have to pay out a large proportion of this 27%. They make their REAL money, due to the quantity and quality of productions. They put on hundreds of shows a year I believe.

[War Dinamita]

Floyd is not asking for a 55/45 split from the purse or live gate. Floyd is asking for a bigger share of the other revenue such as tv revenue, sponsorship, advertisements, etc.

Also, Manny does not want to share his revenue that he's going to make in the Philippines.

[NearHypnos]

Well, it looks like that Arum greed popping up again. I think Arum is trying to make it so Pac and Floyd get about the same amount of money overall, AFTER Arum gets his share. Clearly, Floyd is going to pocket MUCH MUCH more of that 50/50 split than Pac will. I think Arum is basically trying to swindle Pac's "side" into more money because a percentage of more money =...more money. If I recall, Pac had said he'd take the smaller share..which could mean something as little as 51-49. That's what Pac implied imo...not that he was going to take a smaller purse (because lets face it, he is thanks to Arum).

Arum is basically mad...because he can't really justify making this fight. Look at it in his point of view. If Pac loses, does Pac retire? Where does Pac go from there without being able to call himself the challenger to Floyd's throne? I think Pac's PERSONAL stock won't fall much, no shame in losing to the best..but as a bargaining chip, he's clearly going to get the smaller share in a rematch, and opponents (if he continues to fight) would feel entitled to a bigger share. What with Pac coming off what everyone considers a 2 in a row skid (Marquez and Floyd).

We really don't know how much of that money Arum specifically pockets that he takes from Pac and how much goes into the promotion, so as a business decision, you can't really fault Arum. Especially when he can get nearly what he gets against Floyd by having his guys fight lesser opponents and by taking like 80 percent of everything.


At the same time though, I wonder how much more the public is willing to follow Pac's fights? The fans who are in the know are already sick of him fighting scraps and faded fighters/never were fighters...sure, most of us who consider ourselves "real" boxing fans can attribute most of the fault to Arum..but at what point does it become "Okay..seriously? Eff you, Pac. You're a punk and Floyd was right, you have no balls and can't make your own decisions".

I really like Pac, but have lost a ton of respect for him and will not pay for the Cotto fight if he goes that route and I think many people will be turned off by that decision..especially since it's been all over the news "Mayweather wants to fight Pac so bad he called him personally!". I saw that on the spanish channel in between a soap opera.. If Arum can sell that fight and make a ton of money..man is a genius

[War Dinamita]

Good post. It's amusing how people think Mayweather simply earns these tens of millions of dollars without having to pay anyone. What, do they just do their job for free? Ellerbe, Floyd's huge entourage, Shaeffer, Haymon? Is Floyd such a nice guy they just let him take a clean sweep of the revenue? It's laughable. 'Pays whom he wants'! I'll have to remember that one.

As for Floyd's idiotic comment about Pacquiao making more money with him than he's made in his whole career....please. Pacquiao made $20-30 million from the Mosley fight alone. He had a $22 million guarantee for the Marquez fight, and by all accounts likely raked in more - around $30 million according to badlefthook and other sources. That's $50-60 million from 2011 alone. Factor in his myriad endorsements and you're nearer $70 million.

As for the Cotto fight, Manny received around $22 million according to ESPN. For Hatton he made $12 million plus a slice of the PPV.

That's not even counting the Margarito, Clottey or De La Hoya fights. So, Floyd - please - take your head out of your a$$ for a second.

You are forgetting that he has to pay Arum 27%, the IRS gets half, Roach gets 10%, etc.

Dont believe all the numbers you hear online because Manny lost a lot of money and he needs money. He did not get a 22 million guarantee for the JMM fight. Go look at the contract.

[Kilrain]

Bob Arum is Pacquiao's boss and pay him a small percentage.

How do you know how small it is?

Let's look at Pac-Cotto for instance. The fight generated around $70 million in revenue. It generated a live gate of almost $9 million. That's 79 big ones..

Pacquiao, according to Arum, earned around $22 million while Cotto earled 12. That's 34 million, leaving 45 left.....

From that $45 million you have to pay:

Venue
Levy the promotion of the fight
Taxes
HBO (will get a big cut of the PPV - obviously as they're televising the event, thus have to their own staff which I imagine is considerable for such big PPV shows)
All undercard fighters

The way I see it, when you pay the aforementioned bills, it doesn't leave a whole lot. You seem to think Arum simply pockets that $45 million and gives Pac $22 million but it's simply not the case.

[alembic]

On the other side, Pac/May not happening should be a blessing in disguise:

the possibility of a Mayweather vs Martinez.

Yeah, you on it. As a boxing fan, this would be a far stiffer challenge for Floyd, one that would erase any doubt about his greatness, especially at 154. Pac/May is pure business hype, a one-sided BEAT DOWN of Manny not worth any PPV fee. It be like fcuking a starfish.

[Roy Hobbs]

Not that I think he should get more than 50-50, but, if anyone were to be entitled to more than 50-50 it's obviously Mayweather.

That being said, has anyone from Mayweather's camp addressed the 'email' yet?

i think after all the wrangling floyd has done with the drug testing, if this fight doesnt happen because floyd didnt agree to a 50-50 split, floyd is going to lose the court of public opinion. With the amount of money these guys are going to make, its just sheer greed that floyd couldnt agree to evenly split the revenue.

Its not as if floyd is fighting a victor ortiz or marquez here or a bernard hopkins, a accomplished fighter with no ppv power. Floyd and manny are 1# & #2 respectively in their sport. both have titles. both have huge fan bases and are proven ppv stars and both are just as accomplished as each other.

I think floyd has the upper hand right now in terms of court of public opinion, but that's going to change real fast if it doesnt happen because he didnt want to give a even split. In our social media internet age, court of public opinion is more important than ever. Floyd doesnt want to lose that.

[ropeadope89]

If they can't agree on a 50/50 then, since there both so confident, the winner should get more. Right? 45/55, 40/60? Then all that stands in the way is the date.