Comments Thread For: Team Mayweather to Decide By Friday? Guerrero in Front

[WESS]

All this blew up times ten after Floyd deciding 40 fights later there might be a problem with drugs in sports.

and he was not the first or last to demand blood testing.

What everyone remembers is all the excuses that where given from Team Pac's side.

[PAC-BOY]

It does matter, because Pac can make it very clear who he wants yet he allows Bob to dictate who it will be. As for money, like everyone has been saying, they can make a ton of it without fighting each other. Some say he does not even need Floyd etc etc etc...

The both need each other and Mayweather has called out a date and venue (minus the countdown clock) just as Bob did last year. Problem is, Bob says Pac is not ready for a fighter like Mayweather in May. Bob will want Mayweather after he gets out of jail in hopes of him being rusty. Just has Bob wanted Floyd to stay retired after he destroyed Hatton. Bob's not ****** and knows Pac can't beat Mayweather.

When Bob is ready, he will make it. Problem is, he's not done milking Pac yet.

i can go along with this to a point...But Manny did suffer a cut, and im not focusing it all on a cut its just a part of it. Its advisable for a cut to heal to heal 100%. that takes time for the skin to graph back to its full toughness. And fighting not only a Mega fight..but the BIGGEST fight in Boxing history in decades with "a fighter " like Floyd Mayweather...you take all precautions seriously. (example) if a cut needs 3months to heal...you wait 6months. You make sure. Take no chances with a fight of this magnitude. or with a fighter like Floyd Mayweather! So the cut logic along with other nego's going on with $$ and test and all that...Their is no way it could happen JUST like that on May5. Even though its been talked about for year...it is what it was...TALK. Getting down to the bottom and the nitty gritty...will take more than just a few months. Plus give it a little longer and it will sell more. I can see the hold off. LOL @ most people who thinks a fight of this magnatude can just be thrown together like a Mayweather Guerro or Manny JMM4 or some weak ass fight. This is fight of the Century...ill wait gladly to see it.

[COACH WEBB]

Manny's cut, Manny's cut.

Last time after the Cotto fight it was Manny's "busted eardrum".

[PAC-BOY]

Manny's cut, Manny's cut.

Last time after the Cotto fight it was Manny's "busted eardrum".

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[S IP U IR S xII]

That was never a big issue until team Pac made it a big issue. It's not like Mayweather was the first person to demand blood testing. Team Pac made it sound like it was some new process and that giving blood was some bizarre practice in sports. What was bizarre was Team Pac's excuses.

Look at the situation now, a BS cut where Pac can't even spar until April, a BS stadium that needs to be built for Mayweather. That has nothing to do with drugs and yet the fight is not going down because Bob has all the excuses in the world.

Bob will ALWAYS find a reason to get Pac in the ring with someone other than Mayweather until he is good ready to cash out.

I have said this for years now and you can't have the picture painted any more clearer.

Ive said this 1000x....its one thing to go things about in an orderly fashion....its another to go guilty till innocent. Which is what EXACTLY floyd sr did after his boy Ricky got flattened. Like IMDAZED keeps saying that this was before....i recall differently, and after Hatton, the storm started forming. I believe his words were "no one can be that fast and that strong". Bottom line is that its been nothing more than a he said she said with whatever side your backing, attacking others credibility.

As for Pac vs Floyd...i dont care to be honest, as its not going to matter. If Pac wins (which i think he will at this point after seeing Floyd look sluggish against Ortiz), Floyd was too old, and too much going on personally....If Floyd wins, then its Pac was in to many wars, and Floyd just waited for him to go through hell before he fought him. Its a lose lose for both fighters.

So who cares really? I dont. Will i watch it? Yes.....will i be upset if it never happens....NO. Thats why i dont go and point out things about this fight from a technical standpoint anymore. All you need to know on how i think fight would go....Had Floyd fought Pac 2 years ago....Floyd wins easy.....now....Pac will beat him, as Floyd looked slower, getting hit more frequently than in the past (he was not the aggressor as some have pointed out), and his torso doesn't turn as fast anymore.

Could i be wrong about everything? Yes....guess what....so could everyone else about anything. Im not here to say my posts are absolute, and will only acknowledge sources that benefit my stance of whom im backing.

[WESS]

i can go along with this to a point...But Manny did suffer a cut, and im not focusing it all on a cut its just a part of it. Its advisable for a cut to heal to heal 100%. that takes time for the skin to graph back to its full toughness. And fighting not only a Mega fight..but the BIGGEST fight in Boxing history in decades with "a fighter " like Floyd Mayweather...you take all precautions seriously. (example) if a cut needs 3months to heal...you wait 6months. You make sure. Take no chances with a fight of this magnitude. or with a fighter like Floyd Mayweather! So the cut logic along with other nego's going on with $$ and test and all that...Their is no way it could happen JUST like that on May5. Even though its been talked about for year...it is what it was...TALK. Getting down to the bottom and the nitty gritty...will take more than just a few months. Plus give it a little longer and it will sell more. I can see the hold off. LOL @ most people who thinks a fight of this magnatude can just be thrown together like a Mayweather Guerro or Manny JMM4 or some weak ass fight. This is fight of the Century...ill wait gladly to see it.

Right and I want Pac to be 100% but my point was, if its not one thing, it's another. Building a stadium for example. When did that come into play? There is always going to be something until Bob gives the order.

[IMDAZED]

Ive said this 1000x....its one thing to go things about in an orderly fashion....its another to go guilty till innocent. Which is what EXACTLY floyd sr did after his boy Ricky got flattened. Like IMDAZED keeps saying that this was before....i recall differently, and after Hatton, the storm started forming. I believe his words were "no one can be that fast and that strong". Bottom line is that its been nothing more than a he said she said with whatever side your backing, attacking others credibility.

As for Pac vs Floyd...i dont care to be honest, as its not going to matter. If Pac wins (which i think he will at this point after seeing Floyd look sluggish against Ortiz), Floyd was too old, and too much going on personally....If Floyd wins, then its Pac was in to many wars, and Floyd just waited for him to go through hell before he fought him. Its a lose lose for both fighters.

So who cares really? I dont. Will i watch it? Yes.....will i be upset if it never happens....NO. Thats why i dont go and point out things about this fight from a technical standpoint anymore. All you need to know on how i think fight would go....Had Floyd fought Pac 2 years ago....Floyd wins easy.....now....Pac will beat him, as Floyd looked slower, getting hit more frequently than in the past (he was not the aggressor as some have pointed out), and his torso doesn't turn as fast anymore.

Could i be wrong about everything? Yes....guess what....so could everyone else about anything. Im not here to say my posts are absolute, and will only acknowledge sources that benefit my stance of whom im backing.

How could "slander" be the result of failed negotiations if after he said it, they sat and negotiated for two months? It's 2012, we are allowed to think critically these days.

[WESS]

Ive said this 1000x....its one thing to go things about in an orderly fashion....its another to go guilty till innocent. Which is what EXACTLY floyd sr did after his boy Ricky got flattened. Like IMDAZED keeps saying that this was before....i recall differently, and after Hatton, the storm started forming. I believe his words were "no one can be that fast and that strong". Bottom line is that its been nothing more than a he said she said with whatever side your backing, attacking others credibility.

As for Pac vs Floyd...i dont care to be honest, as its not going to matter. If Pac wins (which i think he will at this point after seeing Floyd look sluggish against Ortiz), Floyd was too old, and too much going on personally....If Floyd wins, then its Pac was in to many wars, and Floyd just waited for him to go through hell before he fought him. Its a lose lose for both fighters.

So who cares really? I dont. Will i watch it? Yes.....will i be upset if it never happens....NO. Thats why i dont go and point out things about this fight from a technical standpoint anymore. All you need to know on how i think fight would go....Had Floyd fought Pac 2 years ago....Floyd wins easy.....now....Pac will beat him, as Floyd looked slower, getting hit more frequently than in the past (he was not the aggressor as some have pointed out), and his torso doesn't turn as fast anymore.

Could i be wrong about everything? Yes....guess what....so could everyone else about anything. Im not here to say my posts are absolute, and will only acknowledge sources that benefit my stance of whom im backing.

The problem with Floyd's performance vs Ortiz is that he said he would stand his ground, just like he said he would stand his ground vs Mosley. Yes he is getting older and slower which maybe why he said he would stand his ground.

The problem is Mayweather was a hit just a few times vs a guy 10 years younger who out weighed him. Pac got schooled by an old LW he already fought twice before. Pac looked worse than Floyd. I don't see how you say Floyd beats Pac 2 years ago but not now.

[PAC-BOY]

Right and I want Pac to be 100% but my point was, if its not one thing, it's another. Building a stadium for example. When did that come into play? There is always going to be something until Bob gives the order.

lol that blows me away too...build a stadium ! thats funny. when you get old your brain goes ****in kookoo. That is waaaay out there on that. But take in concentration ..from both sides whats far fetch and what is not. you gotta sift through logic and illogical. i use to get mad and blame and didnt see it but one way. it does seem like its always something and that makes us the fans pissed. But it will happen and we can blame who ever all day. Its up to them and they will make it happen for us.

[PAC-BOY]

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