All aboard the "WARGARITO" Express!!!

[jreckoning]

Yeah.. and yet he was pushing Margarito all over the damn ring and adding some nice combinations to it.

Cotto beat Margarito's ass from 1-9.

I thought Margarito won 3 rounds but Margarito was coming forward the whole fight.
Whatever pushing back Cotto did, didn't last long as Margs started it up again.

Cotto is the better fighter and faster, but Margarito didn't look broken in the least, like he did against Pac and Shane.

I would call those sonnings. Not last night.

I give Cotto props for fighting smart but he didn't break no wills last night.

[borikua]

LMAO!

[hkp30l]

I thought Margarito won 3 rounds but Margarito was coming forward the whole fight.
Whatever pushing back Cotto did, didn't last long as Margs started it up again.

Cotto is the better fighter and faster, but Margarito didn't look broken in the least, like he did against Pac and Shane.

I would call those sonnings. Not last night.

I give Cotto props for fighting smart but he didn't break no wills last night.

LOL, three rounds ****en ******.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I thought Margarito won 3 rounds but Margarito was coming forward the whole fight.
Whatever pushing back Cotto did, didn't last long as Margs started it up again.

Cotto is the better fighter and faster, but Margarito didn't look broken in the least, like he did against Pac and Shane.

I would call those sonnings. Not last night.
I give Cotto props for fighting smart but he didn't break no wills last night.

Cotto fan are desperately trying to convince people it was.

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[TintaBoricua]

I've been looking where to post this monstrous post I've been saving and since the current topic in this thread is whether or not it was a "sonning", I might as well post it now. As always, Tinta tries to be as objective as possible:

I've watched the whole fight like 8-9 times now. My assessment is the following, and I'll try to look at things from both perspectives:

Cotto was on his way to winning a clear UD in the last three rounds. Margarito gave no indication that he was going to turn things around. His pace never slowed down but he wasn't able to as effective with his pressure as he had been able to in the FIRST fight. Was Cotto getting tired? Of course. Cotto was exerting A LOT of movement. The reason why he was able to keep moving this time was because he didn't waste a lot of his stamina by going to war with Margarito and Margarito wasn't able to land to the body as much as in the first fight. Cotto stayed off the ropes and moved a lot, clinched, and made his punches count. The crowd may have influenced the cards a little, but I don't think there was really a round you could've given to Margarito very clearly. Three judges gave a round to Margarito, all of them were on different rounds. One judge scored a certain round for Margarito, and another judge scored another, and another judge scored another one. I watched the first five rounds in 1/4 frames per second and Margarito's landed some good punches here and there (the 3rd and 4th round ones particularly).

The first time Cotto got pinned against the ropes in the fight was in the third round on the upper left side. He threw a combination ending with a left hook. He sold out on the left hook but Margarito ducked under it, and then came in with an uppercut underneath and clipped Cotto to the body. Cotto folded against the ropes from the body shot and Margarito followed it up with another uppercut and hit Cotto on the chin. However, it was so brief that it's easy to overlook it. Cotto slid away and went to the right side of the ring, Margarito closed in, Cotto clinched, and turned HIM around against the ropes. Then, for the FIRST TIME IN THE FIGHT, Cotto went head-to-head with Margarito and started swinging away. Cotto got his flashier punches in, but Margarito was able to land his own punches because of Cotto's recklessness inside. Again, it's easy to overlook because the crowd was pro-Cotto and, on top of that, Cotto's punches have snap and have that sound when you throw them explosively, and it's easier to appreciate them.

It's kind of like when Khan/Mayweather/De la Hoya (in his prime) throw their punches with sharpness and explosive quickness, whereas Margarito throws his punches more like lumbering in (George Foreman/Marcos Maidana). He [Margarito] still has power, it's just not esthetically pleasing compared to a flashier puncher like Cotto.

If one were to give Margarito the benefit of the doubt in every single round in that fight, AT MOST, he only won three rounds. He was on his way to losing a wide UD and or getting stopped along the way. Margarito might've started pressuring Cotto more and more but with his eye in that condition, he was sitting a duck for left hands.

If Cotto chose to take the defensive route, he could've refused to engage COMPLETELY and give away the remaining three rounds 10-8 on the scorecards (inactivity, not engaging at all) and Margarito would've STILL lost 113-112.

I'm sure Margarito wanted to go on and he probably would've preferred to get knocked out rather than have a doctor stop him, but I honestly believe it would've been worse for HIM rather than Cotto from there on out. His eye was going to deteriorate faster than Cotto's stamina.

I really don't remember being nervous when they were debating about stopping it or not, because I didn't see Cotto being as tired as he was in the first. Cotto couldn't even lift his arms up towards the last minute and a half before getting stopped in the first fight. This was an entirely different fight and the majority of here on boxingscene have it correct.

I would've liked it to go on, but I'm not disappointed with the stoppage because Margarito didn't show me anything to make me think that the fight was going to turn around.

The fight result wasn’t "10" on a satisfactory level, but it's at the very least a "7". Cotto deserves credit for avenging one of his only two losses. Point blank period.

In Margarito's past three losses: I think you could argue which one was better between Mosley and Pacquiao. Mosley was manhandling Margarito, throwing haymakers with killer intent from the very first round. Margarito never had a convincing round in that fight. Top it all off, he was hurt and proceeded to be knocked down by Mosley after Mosley hit him like 12-13 times with power punches. Margarito's chin is ridiculous. It is the stuff of legends. It really is. Mosley then followed up the next round by trapping Margarito against the ropes and landing a series of HUGE left and right hooks thrown with his whole weight behind them forcing Margarito to cover up. Mosley's performance, 'til this day, is the best performance ANYONE'S had over Antonio Margarito.

Then you have Pacquiao. The fight should've been stopped on facial damage alone. IF not in the sixth or seventh round, certainly by the tenth after Margarito returned to this corner. Margarito wasn't really hurt in the fight, he was just eating way, way, way too many punches and Pacquiao pulled back in those last two rounds. It was an impressive performance, but Margarito was still coming forward, unlike in the last round of the Mosley fight where he was genuinely on the defensive and looked completely lost.

Then you have the Cotto rematch. Cotto's performance was the "worst" of the three, but to imply it was bad would be a stretch. He still made Margarito look amateurish and won AT THE VERY LEAST six rounds (and I say at the very least, because even if you're giving Margarito the benefit of the doubt, he doesn't win more than three). He was evidently tiring a little (and there are spots where you can see Cotto clinching and his face looks a bit distressed from the pressure), but he was still tying Margarito up en route to either a UD or a late stoppage from the way the fight was going. I cannot for the life of me imagine that Margarito was going to stop Cotto in those last three rounds with MSG supporting Cotto, the thought of his late father, and the motive for "revenge"...Cotto wasn't getting stopped.

Objectively speaking, Mosley made Tony his *****, Pacquiao pummeled him the way a mafia boss pummels deadbeats with baseball bats, and Cotto stuck to boxing him and unleasing combinations in spurts. They were all different but that's how they went from "most" impressive to "least" impressive.

I don't see the need to argue much about this, though. Cotto still did very well against Tony.

On another note, Margarito taunting Cotto:

Round 5 (1:30 on the clock): Margarito appears to say: “¡No duele na!”

(:51 left on the clock) Margarito says: “¡Pegas como niña!”

Round 9 (1:13 left on the clock) Margarito shouts: “¿¡Te duele?!”

Upon returning to the corner and before sitting on the stool, Margarito is shouting to his corner: “¡Está corriendo el puto!”