Comments Thread For: Marquez Reviews Fight, More Confident He Beat Pacquiao

[Toyman]

very well said....

but you must look at these very close fights the way jmm and his fans do,,,,

pac vs jmm 1 - jmm got kd 3 times; jmm won

pac vs jmm 2 - jmm got kd once; jmm won

pac vs jmm 3 - jmm was not kd; hurray hurray,,,,jmm CLEARLY won

the thing is that the judges decided otherwise...

WHY?

i don't know! i am not a judge...and i will not talk like i know better than them..

allow me to offer some insight into the 3rd fight - i too scored the bout 116-112 as did judge glenn trowbrige.

what i saw was jmm at times in the first 3-4 rounds attempt to be the aggressor while pacquiao systematically caved in jmms face with superior counter puching ability.

fearing pacquiao's power , jmm reverted to his counter punching style thus going back on his word that he would try to ko pacquiao. pacquiao won 5 of the last 8 rounds because i, like the judges favor the aggressor in close rounds.

Contrary to popular belief, jmm did not outbox pacquiao. he first failed miserably at the aggresor role, then went back to doing everything possible to avoid getting laid out, while occasionally landing "crisp, clean punches" which did not even leave a mark on pacquiaos face. Rather, it was the "semi-blocked punches" of pacquiao which left jmms face a horrible mess.

im sure judge glenn trowbridge and dave moretti would offer similar accounts.


as for the first 2 fights , i also had pacquiao winning those.

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allow me to offer some insight into the 3rd fight - i too scored the bout 116-112 as did judge glenn trowbrige.

what i saw was jmm at times in the first 3-4 rounds attempt to be the aggressor while pacquiao systematically caved in jmms face with superior counter puching ability.

fearing pacquiao's power , jmm reverted to his counter punching style thus going back on his word that he would try to ko pacquiao. pacquiao won 5 of the last 8 rounds because i, like the judges favor the aggressor in close rounds.

Contrary to popular belief, jmm did not outbox pacquiao. he first failed miserably at the aggresor role, then went back to doing everything possible to avoid getting laid out, while occasionally landing "crisp, clean punches" which did not even leave a mark on pacquiaos face. Rather, it was the "semi-blocked punches" of pacquiao which left jmms face a horrible mess.

im sure judge glenn trowbridge and dave moretti would offer similar accounts.


as for the first 2 fights , i also had pacquiao winning those.

Give it up Toyman. The word is already out to the masses and more people say Pac lost then won. How many judges in the sport of boxing have robbed fighters who deserve the win? Countless and this fight is no different.

[Toyman]

Give it up Toyman. The word is already out to the masses and more people say Pac lost then won. How many judges in the sport of boxing have robbed fighters who deserve the win? Countless and this fight is no different.

good for you

Robert Hoyle, Dave Moretti and glenn trowbridge would beg to differ though.

so would jmms face.

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good for you

Robert Hoyle, Dave Moretti and glenn trowbridge would beg to differ though.

so would jmms face.

Whatever man the damage is done. Pac has been exposed.

[FloydPacquiaoJr]

allow me to offer some insight into the 3rd fight - i too scored the bout 116-112 as did judge glenn trowbrige.

what i saw was jmm at times in the first 3-4 rounds attempt to be the aggressor while pacquiao systematically caved in jmms face with superior counter puching ability.

fearing pacquiao's power , jmm reverted to his counter punching style thus going back on his word that he would try to ko pacquiao. pacquiao won 5 of the last 8 rounds because i, like the judges favor the aggressor in close rounds.

Contrary to popular belief, jmm did not outbox pacquiao. he first failed miserably at the aggresor role, then went back to doing everything possible to avoid getting laid out, while occasionally landing "crisp, clean punches" which did not even leave a mark on pacquiaos face. Rather, it was the "semi-blocked punches" of pacquiao which left jmms face a horrible mess.

im sure judge glenn trowbridge and dave moretti would offer similar accounts.


as for the first 2 fights , i also had pacquiao winning those.

yea when JMM decided to initiate he got countered a lot

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yea when JMM decided to initiate he got countered a lot

Give me a break with that video. Pac ain't give JMM no boxing lesson. How could he when Pac ain't even happy with his own performance? You guys need to seriously stop.

[Toyman]

yea when JMM decided to initiate he got countered a lot

lol the funniest part is that the only comeback ive seen by jmm fans to that video is a 9 second slow motion clip featuring the same shot twice

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lol the funniest part is that the only comeback ive seen by jmm fans to that video is a 9 second slow motion clip featuring the same shot twice

The funniest thing to me are Pac die hard fans who can't step out of the box and see that Manny Pacquiao got a lesson in boxing against JMM. Pac is dropping down the P4P list just off of that one fight he had with a fighter that he was supposed to blow by with ease. All we heard was "This is the best training camp ever". "Pac has something to prove". "Pac is mad", "Pac is punishing sparring partners". All of a sudden after the fight he says "I want a rematch". Dude still ain't satisifed because Juan Manuel Marquez just keeps serving him. Almost the whole sport of boxing (fighters and trainers) are saying JMM got robbed but Pac fans are making up stuff to try to justifiy Pac winning. If Pac put on such a great boxing lesson then how come Ariza said that Manny had "cramps" and that's why he didn't look good? You guys kill me and it is really funny how you guys see Pac as this dominate fighter even when he isn't.

Pac is lucky and not lucky to have fans like you guys. Lucky in a sense that you will always support him but not lucky that you guys are so into him that he feels he doesn't have to step his fight game up. Dude had 7 years, age and a weight class JMM looked bad at against Floyd and after all of his spectacular wins, Pac still couldn't beat JMM who he had all the advantages over. I was looking at my sig pic of the fight and JMM hitting Pac with that straight right and thought of what Mayweather would do to Pac with his lead right hand. The version of JMM that Floyd fought would have still gave Pac problems and Mayweather shut him out. Floyd should just fight someone better than Pac because it is all so clear that at this point it would be a mismatch in favor of Floyd.

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@Toyman......Are you serious?

a. Some peoples faces swell more than others.

b. Men who fight 12 hard rounds in the ring often like to remove their sweaty gear when they return to their dressing room.

What's your point? Are these 2 items how you justify a Pacquiao win? If so, please go back to your XBOX and spare serious boxing fans your non-sense.

good one bro

That dumb kid spends too much time playing with his manny-doll.

[FloydPacquiaoJr]

lol the funniest part is that the only comeback ive seen by jmm fans to that video is a 9 second slow motion clip featuring the same shot twice

most of Marquez shots came from the instant highlight replay, and most base this as a win by marquez lol