Does anyone else think Pac doesn't pull the trigger now?

[PlayerKiller]

Not just the Marquez fight, or the Shane fight, but since the Margarito fight I have noticed that Pac doesn't fight with bad intentions as he could. Marg was basically there to be hurt real bad and Pac I believe in the ring asked if he is OK.

In the Shane Mosely fight, yes Shane kept being on the back foot, and touching gloves, but Pac was concentrating on not getting hit and didn't attack as he once did. When Pac got thrown down by Shane, that was when Pac actually got mad and went for Shane a lot harder.

The case also seemed to be here, where Pac was trying not to get hit, being fairly defensive. Before, Pac use to go in quite hard, take shots to land, but now he tends to back pedal and duck and come back with his guard up.

Heck yes Hatton is limited, but Pac didn't mind getting hit to land back himself. Now it simply is not the case, he just doesn't want to get hit. It has been the formula that made him very popular, attack, attack, attack! It seems he has either just not really hungry in boxing and is distracted by politics, out of prime (His footwork seems a lot less darting now) or simply was exposed.

Either way, this Pacquiao with a lower workrate, less speed in footwork will lose to Mayweather. It is not just styles, because Pacquaio did worse now that he previously did. His power doesn't seem to be there either. Maybe the leg cramps are true, I don't know, but a rematch is needed for sure.

[Doctor_Tenma]

I saw the decline since the Margarito fight, mainly his overall athleticism, foot speed to be specific. Still, never envisioned Marquez would be the guy to expose all that, very VERY shocking.

Still, there is nothing wrong with Pacquiao when it pertains to his physical attributes, he's still an extremely talented fighter, but at this point in time he has to transition into a style that would better suit his deteriorated skills. And for the record, Marquez ain't exactly in his prime either, still very good though.

[Larry the boss]

Marquez made him look bad last night,really bad,he looked frustrated and confused and showed the world he can't adapt to save his life

[Ray*]

Am sure he can pull the trigger if his opponent who are slower, war-torn stands right in front of him and just **** away, He doesnt seem to know how to pull the trigger against people who are just a little bit smart.

[Kris Silver]

I think he like us watching, have become so accustom to him training so hard, and just steaming the opponents that we and he, just expect it to come naturally.

He doesn't go for the KO as much, and is not pressing the action, or as motivated, energetic as he once was.

They were saying he was being crueller to sparring partners and was gona go for Marquz, but it's just not being seen.

[Ray*]

Marquez made him look bad last night,really bad,he looked frustrated and confused and showed the world he can't adapt to save his life

I think i overrate Pacquaio, i thought he can adapt to anyone and i thought his right hand has improve but i saw the mosley fight and he couldnt adapt after Mosley start turning him, He could throw any different type of punch against Clottey who stand covered in front of him, And now he couldnt adjust against JMM, I just saw the fight and the fight was close but JMM decision a UD not even a SD or MD.

[!! Shawn]

I saw the decline since the Margarito fight, mainly his overall athleticism, foot speed to be specific. Still, never envisioned Marquez would be the guy to expose all that, very VERY shocking.

Still, there is nothing wrong with Pacquiao when it pertains to his physical attributes, he's still an extremely talented fighter, but at this point in time he has to transition into a style that would better suit his deteriorated skills. And for the record, Marquez ain't exactly in his prime either, still very good though.

He's been in decline since the Cotto fight. Ive said it several times. I made a post about it last week.

Most fighters that rely on physically imposing themselves on their opponents as Pacquiao does are past it by 32.

[Lineal Champ]

Not just the Marquez fight, or the Shane fight, but since the Margarito fight I have noticed that Pac doesn't fight with bad intentions as he could. Marg was basically there to be hurt real bad and Pac I believe in the ring asked if he is OK.

In the Shane Mosely fight, yes Shane kept being on the back foot, and touching gloves, but Pac was concentrating on not getting hit and didn't attack as he once did. When Pac got thrown down by Shane, that was when Pac actually got mad and went for Shane a lot harder.

The case also seemed to be here, where Pac was trying not to get hit, being fairly defensive. Before, Pac use to go in quite hard, take shots to land, but now he tends to back pedal and duck and come back with his guard up.

Heck yes Hatton is limited, but Pac didn't mind getting hit to land back himself. Now it simply is not the case, he just doesn't want to get hit. It has been the formula that made him very popular, attack, attack, attack! It seems he has either just not really hungry in boxing and is distracted by politics, out of prime (His footwork seems a lot less darting now) or simply was exposed.

Either way, this Pacquiao with a lower workrate, less speed in footwork will lose to Mayweather. It is not just styles, because Pacquaio did worse now that he previously did. His power doesn't seem to be there either. Maybe the leg cramps are true, I don't know, but a rematch is needed for sure.

He can still pull the trigger but hes not coming in wildcat style like he used to. His punch output is way down from previous 2 marquez fights. His physical prime was Cotto fight.

[PlayerKiller]

I saw the decline since the Margarito fight, mainly his overall athleticism, foot speed to be specific. Still, never envisioned Marquez would be the guy to expose all that, very VERY shocking.

Still, there is nothing wrong with Pacquiao when it pertains to his physical attributes, he's still an extremely talented fighter, but at this point in time he has to transition into a style that would better suit his deteriorated skills. And for the record, Marquez ain't exactly in his prime either, still very good though.

Yeah I saw a decline as well. Pacquiao has always had the advantage of speed, be it foot and hand, now, to be precise yesterday, his hand speed did not seem to be as fast, but what is worse is, it lacked potency. Before Pac was very snappy, and now, it just didn;t seem right. I did see Pac land on JMM, most definitely, and I assume that is how he won some rounds, but JMM was the one who had the much harder and crisper shots. I would even say a Hopkin's VS Calzaghe type of fight.

I was incredibly shocked myself. There was a point in round 3 or 4 where I saw Pac bring up his workrate, which he was famous for. He did well, but then he went down again. I wouldn't even say it was because JMM figured Pac out or anything. JMM had the perfect fight for me, but Pac didn't display to me what he could have done.

JMM is still very good, and I honestly believe that he can be overwhelmed with a high workrate. Something Juan Diaz did extremely well in their first fight until he got knocked out.

JMM isnt in his prime for sure. Sadly Pac and Mayweather aren't either, but Mayweather at this stage beats Pac based on that performance. Even after the Ortiz fight I felt Pac could still use his high workrate to pressure Mayweather and tag him much like Ortiz, but now, I don't see Pac being the guy who was so hungry to entertain the fans.

[ThePrince]

Am sure he can pull the trigger if his opponent who are slower, war-torn stands right in front of him and just **** away, He doesnt seem to know how to pull the trigger against people who are just a little bit smart.

He had no trouble pulling the trigger against Marquez twice at featherweight and he spanked Ledwaba. He's definitely lost some of that fire that made him what he is. I think he's just been too comfortable lately. He has money, fame, and began to believe his own hype. Hopefully this fight awoke the sleeping beast in him, he's been soft as butter the last few times out. Content to let Margarito survive, shaking hands and hugging Mosley every 2 sec.

Also didn't seem that Roach bothered to come up with a game plan beyond KO him in 6. IMO if Pac had simply focused on turning JMM to his weakside and leading with the straight left (already proven he is susceptible to that punch), it would've been a much easier night for Manny. But instead he just followed Marquez around without really pressing the action or throwing anything and allowed Marquez to shift to his (Manny's) right, nullifying his strength.

It was almost like Freddie didn't bother to watch any tape of the previous fights or formulate a game plan. Just figured Manny would touch him once and Marquez would go to sleep.