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Pacquiao's "supposedly" Highest Grossing PPV fight is vs Shane Mosley?!?! How??
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Because this was one of the most heavily promoted fights in history. It's really quite simple.
Don't forget, this was fight where Fightcamp was airing on CBS and every Viacom network was advertising for this fight. This was Showtime's chance and they made it a huge promotion. It worked, but all it did was awake a sleeping giant in HBO.
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That fight had to do about 950k at best. At worst, 675k. Pacquiao's root buyrate by himself is about 775k. With Clottey he did about what he would do by himself. With Margarito, he did 1.1 or something. That was with Mexicans who follow Margarito. This one may do 1.1 or 1.2 tops. Floyd's got him beat out in buys. Not by too much, but he's still ahead.
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I think as long as Floyd is an active fighter Bob Arum/Top Rank are going to be under alot of pressure to match Mayweather's numbers, even if he can't do it honestly. And fans need to understand this is about way more than Manny Pacquiao, this is about Floyd taking Bob Arum to business school. There’s a lot of bad blood between those two and Arum’s job is made easier as Floyd makes himself into a ****** sort of character to sell his fights. So of course Arum wins the PR war but Mayweather takes home the bigger spoils.
Arum has a fighter with a fan base so fervently dedicated to Manny Pacquiao that they are absolutely willing to say just about anything to defend him, or believe anything that comes out of his camp. He has that fan base but he still can't outsell Floyd, who’s supposedly such a hated fighter.
And again, I don't buy the bizarre logic that someone is going to pay $70.00 in this terrible economy to see a fighter lose. I think boxing, like all of sports, allows its' fans a means of escape, a way of getting away from their lives and a chance to feel good, if even for a few hours.
In my humble opinion there’s no way Pacquiao vs Mosley did 1.3 buys, when most fans realized that Mosley had been thoroughly beaten by Mayweather and Mosley's subsequent performance cemented his decline. Shane Mosley showed substantial weakness as a credible challenger to Manny Pacquiao but the fight was made anyway. Fight fans knew this when the fight was announced, so it was kind of a letdown. So in my way of thinking those numbers are made up, along with a lot of things Bob Arum says, but because Pacquiao’s name is attached Arum knows some folks will have no problem believing him.
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Originally posted by Cash Cow View PostSeriously how does he do 1.25 vs Oscar but he does 1.3 supposedly vs Mosley?
He didn't.
The final tally on Pac-Cotto was 1.20 million. Pac-Mosley most likely came in at 700-800K. But it was a Showtime PPV so maybe even less. Top Rank would have never went running back to HBO if they were seeing the same (or as they put it, MORE) success with Showtime.
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Mosley/Pac was advertised during the NCAA tournament on CBS during primetime so a ton of people knew about the fight. Its possible that helped sales.
Its hard to believe that Pac/Mosley, after Shane Mosley got embarassed by floyd and drawing with Mora, on SHowtime ppv sold more than pac/ODH, after ODH lost a a split decision to floyd, on HBO ppv.
Then again floyd/ODH sold 1 mil ppv's more thsn ODH/Trinidad so anythign is possible I guess.
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