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    #81
    Originally posted by Larrys Cellmate View Post
    You can keep saying this, but you're wrong...Pacquiao never even earned #1 p4p by your own "standards"
    Floyd never became no1 p4p by beating any top p4p fighter. People criticise Floyds earlier career fighters. Pac beat the Barreras of this world yet werent rated above Floyd for some reason?
    Its just Floyd was already at no1 and the ring ****zine couldnt be bothered to move Floyd down, until Pac actually beat Floyd!

    Now its time Floyd fights Pac if he wants to prove it. The good thing to come out of Floyd and Sergio fighting is if they lose they wont be dropping down much, compared to if Sergio had of lost to Barker.

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      #82
      Majority of Boxing Fans wants that Pacman vs Floydie next Year!
      If he fights Martinez, then that's his right, but -

      Will Boxing fans accept it?

      You got to consider that the last PPV results of Floydie was below 1Million, and Martines isn't that PPV star.

      Fighting Martinez will only confirm that belief of most Boxing fans and Sportswriters that Floydie is avoiding/ducking/scared (you call whatever you want) Pacman - the current #1 PFP and emerging PPV Star...

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        #83
        Originally posted by 26 and Live View Post
        I believe Floyd when he says he is willing to fight the best out there... He just always forgets to say as long as Arum isn't their promoter!!

        I find it odd that a man can go his ENTIRE career fighting the best and then get labeled a ducker toward the late-prime/peak years...

        If the deal with Sergio is really on the table and Floyd fights him (let alone boxes his ears off) then we have to call it what it like it is... Ain't no ducking, just business and the CEO of Top Rank has been at the center of all of the bull****.
        If Mayweather beat Sergio Martinez no one can argue who the best P4P is. Golden Boy is running out of fighters for Mayweather to fight other than Amir Khan so it will be interesting to see who Mayweather's next opponent is.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Rolaz View Post
          Majority of Boxing Fans wants that Pacman vs Floydie next Year!
          If he fights Martinez, then that's his right, but -

          Will Boxing fans accept it?

          You got to consider that the last PPV results of Floydie was below 1Million, and Martines isn't that PPV star.

          Fighting Martinez will only confirm that belief of most Boxing fans and Sportswriters that Floydie is avoiding/ducking/scared (you call whatever you want) Pacman - the current #1 PFP and emerging PPV Star...
          Only a moron would think fighting Martinez is a way of ducking Pacquiao, In fact it would confirm that its Pacquiao who is indeed doing the ducking here, Because If Martinez gets the opportunity at Mayweather and did so while submitting to random drug testing and Mayweather fought him the question would then be why cant Pac do the same since people think Martinez is an equally dangerous if not more dangerous fight for Mayweather to take.

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            #85
            Floyd will not fight MP without USADA administered random blood and urine testing. MP won't accept USADA random urine and blood testing, therefore we have no fight. There is no point in Floyd hanging around and waiting for anyone when they won't meet a fundamental requirement for him to fight them. It's just that simple!!!!

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              #86
              Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
              The winner of the 2nd and 3rd best p4p fighters dont make you the no1 p4p fighter in the same way that a winner between the 5th and 4th best p4p fighters wouldnt make you the 3rd best, in the same way the 10th best p4p fighter beating the 2nd best p4p fighter wouldnt make you no1 as well. Can it be explained any simpler than that, i dont think so?

              You take each others place at best. You floydie fans and WESS in particular, are just getting carried away, and going OTT and trying to give Floyd an incentive to take the Sergio fight. A carrot shouldnt need to be dangled in front of Floyd to get him to fight Sergio. He should want to prove hes the 2nd best fighter in the world anyway!
              But hey, if lying is what it takes for Floyd to man up and sign, yes Floyd you will be the greatest fighter in the world if you sign to fight Sergio.

              So what rank was Cotto when Pac fought him at a WW CW to become #1 P4P?

              Also, you're in denial dude, Martinez is the best in his respected division(s). You keep saying that a show down between the CURRENT WORLD WW Champion vs the former WORLD JMW Champion and CURRENT MW Champion that are ARGUABLY the #2 and #3 P4P best will not put winner at #1?

              Pac is irrelevant because he's fighting irrelevant fighters and as Khan states Pac is not willing to do any tests any times soon which makes him even MORE irrelevant when it comes to Mayweather (Floyd's fought or not it doesn't matter now)....

              We don't have forever, Mayweather can move on to BIGGER and BETTER things for his legacy while Pac keeps fighting in house irrelevant fighters that Bob places before him for "entertainment" (I loved the WWF too). Irrelevant fighters vs Relevant CURRENT Champions, you do the math. Mayweather IF he beats Martinez (a career JMW) will put him above Pac and out does everything Pac has done since moving up from 130.

              Again, what rank was Cotto "WHEN" (there is that ****ing "WHEN" word again) Pac fought him that put Pac at #1? Come on you know this..

              The Current WW WORLD Champion vs former JMW/CURRENT MW Champion winner WILL become #1 P4P. It's 2011 and Pac can not live off a CW Cotto win back in 2009 forever. Since then he has fought irreverent fighters at WW and JMW.

              Think of it this way, If YOU think Pac can stay at #1 for fighting a loser like Clottey, a beaten cheater like Margarito and an old faded losing Mosley how the hell does your logic NOT put Mayweather at #1 for fighting the WORLD WW Champion Mosley in 2010, #2 WW Champion Ortiz in 2011 and Martinez (IF Floyd fights AND beats him)?

              Again, What rank was Cotto WHEN Pac fought him to put Pac at #1?????

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                #87
                Originally posted by WESS View Post
                So what rank was Cotto when Pac fought him at a WW CW to become #1 P4P?


                Again, What rank was Cotto WHEN Pac fought him to put Pac at #1?????
                Well, Pac came up from 116lbs and has to artificially eat more than hes happy with to fight at 147 and beat one of the best WW in the world to become p4p the best fighter in the world and FOTD. Floyd didnt fancy Cotto, so what relevance is it where Cotto was ranked? What was he ranked anyway btw?

                Who did Floyd beat to become p4p no1 in the first place all those years back is the question?
                Last edited by hugh grant; 10-17-2011, 01:13 PM.

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                  #88
                  Lets be honest here, Manny is more of a threat then Martinez is and thats coming from a guy who hates Manny. Sergio is a fighter who fights with his hands down and fights from the outside, Floyd would outbox Sergio anyday because of this. Manny is a brawler who would get inside and use his speed and power, thats not good for Floyd. Although I do think Floyd would beat both of them, Sergio is clearly the lesser threat do to boxing styles. And don't give me this Sergio is bigger with alota power crap, Sergio isn't even known for his power. Who gives a shlt about him KOing Paul, the guy isn't known for his power period.

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                    #89
                    Personally I too think that Martinez is a bigger threat than Pacquiao and pays less of a reward for Floyd. Martinez is bigger physically, taller, a southpaw with great speed and decent power. Given those factors I would still give Mayweather a chance at beating Martinez but even if he did people would say Martinez is an old man, past his prime. Sergio is 36 now and if the two were to fight sometime next year he would be 37 and have to move down a weight class. Floyd would get very little credit for this victory outside of the boxing world.

                    Floyd should instead focus on getting the fight with Manny made. Less of a risk and more of a reward.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                      Well, Pac came up from 116lbs and has to artificially eat more than hes happy with to fight at 147 and beat one of the best WW in the world to become p4p the best fighter in the world and FOTD. Floyd didnt fancy Cotto, so what relevance is it where Cotto was ranked? What was he ranked anyway btw?

                      Who did Floyd beat to become p4p no1 in the first place all those years back is the question?
                      So were questioning Floyd now to divert from Pac?

                      What does Pac at 116lbs have anything to do with Pac beating Cotto at a CW back in 2009 to become #1 P4P?

                      LOL at you saying Cotto was the best WW in the world "WHEN" (there is that ****ing WHEN word again) Pac fought him... "Your as good as your last fight" (your logic) Did you see Cotto's last fight before fighting Pac?

                      but lets avoid Pac and question Floyd.. lol You KNOW Pac has done NOTHING since 2009 to REMAIN P4P #1 which is why you want to avoid Pac and NOW question FLoyd...

                      Bottom line, IF Floyd fights and beats Martinez, he would surpasses anything Pac has done since beating Cotto at a CW to become P4P #1 back in 2009. It's 2011 and facing IN HOUSE irrelevant faded has beens does not justify Pac as #1.

                      Using YOUR very own logic of saying Pac should remain P4P #1 because of beating a loser like Clottey (your as good as your last fight), a banned has been like Margarito (your as good as your last fight), and an old losing Mosley (your as good as your last fight) is a FAIL "WHEN" Mayweather has fought a P4P #2 LW Champion JMM at WW (your as good as your last fight), WORLD WW Champion Mosley (your as good as your last fight) and #2 WW Champion Ortiz (your as good as your last fight) and IF Floyd fights and beats Martinez these fights surpass Pac's losing, banned and old opposition by a mile. You know I'm right and now want to question how and why Floyd was ever P4P #1, I rest my case....

                      Besides, like I said already this is all IF Floyd...... and we know what that means... Don't be mad about it, YOU should be happy. You rant and raved about how Floyd should be fighting Martinez...
                      Last edited by WESS; 10-17-2011, 02:23 PM.

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