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Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post1.) After the commentators stated that Manny looked shop-worn and faded during the Marquez II fight, Pac put on 13lbs of muscle in 9 months, and ripped through 3 divisions all the while increasing his speed and power
Pacquiao's weight gain is the second highest in recorded history. Now, get this..... Manny is second only to Roy Jones Junior (who ended up at HW for ***s sake), he is second to Jones by only 1lb, and Jones used steroids.
Something aint right there, which is why a number of fighters have commented.
2.) Pacquiao is the only athlete in history to walk away from his career-best payday by refusing random blood tests
3.) His 8 ridiculous excuses are absurd
4.) USADA are now corrupt ?
Dude, after dragging this on for 2+ years, requiring a " lawsuit ", and requiring 8 ridiculous excuses..... USADA have suddenly become corrupt?
Come on man, wake up, a blind man can see whats up there.
People see what they want to see I guess.
Tell me, do you think that USADA are corrupt ?
And, do you think that one single member of Team Pacquiao, anyone at all, genuinely believes that USADA have suddenly become corrupt ?
Really ?
FACT: Random blood tests are completely harmless, so something aint right
Floyd started amateur boxing at the age of 16 in lowest division
Pac started pro boxing at the age of 16 in lowest division.
Floyd went up to 154 while Pac weighed in at 144 in his fight at 150
Floyd actually went higher in weight than Pac and should be more of suspect than Pac. Floyd took his own OST but this didn't prove anything Floyd was not taking PEDs in the past because he really went up higher in weighr than Pac. Anyway, he is Floyd so he must be clean like his family.
Pac didn't turn down Floyd invented OST but asked for cut off days. Floyd refused as he wanted Pac to be tested the day of the fight and so why the fight fell apart. Take note, up to this very moment. Floyd is the only pro boxer in thousand of thousands boxers around the world who required his opponents to submit in his own invented 2 months OST. You may wonder why all of the sudden he is doing it as he really wants to clean the sport or just wanted to save his face because he started it when he asked Pacquaio?Last edited by straightleft; 09-02-2011, 02:56 AM.
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Originally posted by straightleft View Post*****s as always never fail to amuse me with their selective memory.
Floyd started amateur boxing at the age of 16 in lowest division
Pac started pro boxing at the age of 16 in lowest division.
Floyd went up to 154 while Pac weighed in at 144 in his fight at 150
Floyd actually went higher in weight than Pac and should be more of suspect than Pac. Floyd took his own OST but this didn't prove anything Floyd was not taking PEDs in the past because he really went up higher in weighr than Pac. Anyway, he is Floyd so he must be clean like his family.
Pac didn't turn down Floyd invented OST but asked for cut off days. Floyd refused as he wanted Pac to be tested the day of the fight and so why the fight fell apart. Take note, up to this very moment. Floyd is the only pro boxer in thousand of thousands boxers around the world who required his opponents to submit in his own invented 2 months OST. You may wonder why all of the sudden he is doing it as he really wants to clean the sport or just wanted to save his face because he started it when he asked Pacquaio?
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Hey.... nobody saying "His head looks huge" hahahahaha....
Seems that his head decreased !!
Wierd....don't you think *****s ?
*****s next argument:
"Emmmm yeah, but, but.... look at that spot under his mouth in the last pic. That's a roids symptom, yeah.... Floyd said that, and that's the way it is !!"Last edited by DominiBox; 09-02-2011, 06:22 AM.
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Originally posted by TBOGGS78 View PostI think people assume PAC is on steroids because it's hard to understand how a guy in his 30's and has been fighting for almost 18 years is getting faster and stronger as he moves up. People say PBF is not the same as he was and that he's slowing down. If that's true how do you explain how PAC is moving up in weight and still getting faster and stronger when he's been fighting longer and had almost 20 more fights then PBF and a lot of brutal fights as well. Here you have a guy that was rocked by Morales and Marquez but now Margarito, Cotto, Clottey, Mosley can hurt him at all. Mosley was one of the hardest punchers to ever fight at 130-135 and even he lost some of his power when he went to 147, he doesnt anywhere near the amount of knockouts he did at 130-135.
pacs always been a puncher he was knocking men out as an adolescent teen.
rumours were started by sr because he is a bitter man. and u guys that follow his word are just as ******. just look at the facts
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Originally posted by Paranormal View PostWhat the f$#@k you ignorant moron are saying here. Wait a minute:
1. During the last Pac-Eric 3 at 130 lbs Pac came into the ring at 147 lbs. During his last fight against Mosley at 147 Pac came at 146 lbs. Now do your math where's the gain. You're a f*&^%ng liar. Pac tore through divisions from 130 up to 154 as if they don't exist using the same physical body weight and mass all throughout. The only significant difference is that at 147, he doesn't have to dehydrate almost to death as he did at 130. Pac is actually a bloated LWW tearing apart the WW division.
Now you mentioned about comments of some fighters on Pac. Do I have to remind you of what Roy Jones, Hagler, Foreman and lately Irvin did say about Floyd and his ridiculous demands? Something ain't right of Floyd that's for sure.
2. I can assure that Floyd is the only repeat only boxer in boxing history that demanded an OSDT without cut-off up to fight night on a crude, unskilled one-dimensional, uneducated, fake, fraud midget fighter from the east who Floyd repeatedly said has no chance of beating him with or without PEDS. Aside from being an easy fight , much easier than Marquez, a fight with this midget will give him the biggest pay in any sports' recorded history. Something is wrong with FLoyd brothah.
3. Isn't Floyd's unprecedented random OSDT without cut-off up to fight night the one's ridiculous and absurd? Would you still refuse to understand? You are a self-proclaimed boxing expert right? Manny never refused OSDT specially if done by the commission. Its' the cut-off period his team is trying to negotiate. While I partially agree that present testing is en-adequate, applying random OSDT with no cut-off up to fight night in the sport of boxing is idiocy at highest level and the one who demanded and supported it should be hanged including you of course.
4. Regarding the USADA issue I think what Bob is trying to point out is the friendship between Oscar and Tygart and Tygart often times declaring Floyd as the clean athlete during the height of the turmoil of the first negotiation. I never heard Arum categorically saying USADA is corrupt. This fight is international in nature and having WADA overseeing the testing is fair enough. I don't see any issue here.
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Originally posted by Vino Rotcha View PostThe test after the fight is enough. You can not drain steroid/epo/ped through perspiration, right?
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Originally posted by fcastro1 View Posthes not faster or stronger thats stuff is made up to justify the ped talk when its false.
pacs always been a puncher he was knocking men out as an adolescent teen.
rumours were started by sr because he is a bitter man. and u guys that follow his word are just as ******. just look at the facts
so true, when pac blazes through and beat his opponents, the *****s cry and say he's on peds because how can someone at that age keeps getting faster. then when they see a recent video of pac training they go and make comments like haha pac is getting slow blah blah blah... so what is it *****s?? is pac getting faster or slower? LOL!!
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