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    #41
    Originally posted by PunchesNbuncheS View Post
    LOL!

    Oh man, youre something special!

    NAME ME ONE ATG THAT CALZAGHE FOUGHT IN THEIR PRIME?

    The only ATG roy jones ,bhop and eubank fought.....was JOE CALZAGHE

    name a ATG IN JOE CALZAGHE ERA THAT HE DID NOT FIGHT?........YOU CANT NAME 1 CAN YOU?.......... I CANT

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      #42
      Originally posted by jermainerambo View Post
      The only ATG roy jones ,bhop and eubank fought.....was JOE CALZAGHE

      name a ATG IN JOE CALZAGHE ERA THAT HE DID NOT FIGHT?........YOU CANT NAME 1 CAN YOU?.......... I CANT
      Sven Ottke.

      The ATG Super Middleweight with 21 title defenses.

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        #43
        Originally posted by jermainerambo View Post
        The only ATG roy jones ,bhop and eubank fought.....was JOE CALZAGHE

        name a ATG IN JOE CALZAGHE ERA THAT HE DID NOT FIGHT?........YOU CANT NAME 1 CAN YOU?.......... I CANT
        hopkins-

        1-tito
        2-oscar

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          #44
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
          Sven Ottke.

          The ATG Super Middleweight with 21 title defenses.
          ottke ko 1 calzaghe. calzaghe refused to fight ottke because he didn't want to go to germany but then he went to germany to fight veit! why fight the unified champ when you can fight a tomato can?
          Last edited by daggum; 08-25-2011, 05:47 PM.

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            #45
            Originally posted by LarryX2011 View Post
            hopkins-

            1-tito
            2-oscar
            Neither are ATG's but Tito is certainly a better win than anything Calzaghe did.

            I would even argue that beating Oscar at 160 is almost as good as anything Calzaghe did.

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              #46
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
              Neither are ATG's but Tito is certainly a better win than anything Calzaghe did.

              I would even argue that beating Oscar at 160 is almost as good as anything Calzaghe did.
              what do you consider all time great? because I've seen oscar and tito in so many of people's top 100 lists.

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                #47
                i'm pretty sure lacy was an all time great.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                  Sven Ottke.

                  The ATG Super Middleweight with 21 title defenses.

                  will ottke ever get in to the HOF ?.........NO......SO HOW CAN HE BE A AGT?.....

                  come 2012 calzaghe is getting in to the HOF before jones jr and bhop

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
                    what do you consider all time great? because I've seen oscar and tito in so many of people's top 100 lists.
                    I consider the Top 100 fighters to be ATG's. (As time goes on that will obviously expand)

                    I don't consider Oscar nor Tito to be Top 100 ATG's. Boarderline yes, but not quite.

                    Wouldn't disagree too much if someone were to have them in the Top 100 but only if it were the latter.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by jermainerambo View Post
                      will ottke ever get in to the HOF ?.........NO......SO HOW CAN HE BE A AGT?.....

                      come 2012 calzaghe is getting in to the HOF before jones jr and bhop
                      But he had so many title defences.....How can he not be an ATG?

                      Of course it doesn't matter if the title defences are entirely against bums. Because after all, they're title defences!

                      So yeah 21 title defences= definite ATG.

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