Comments Thread For: Mayweather is Already Two Pounds Within The Limit

[tatangb45]

Look if you are contracted to build a house that has to be finished on Sep.1. There will then be penalty clauses if the house isnt finished at the time. Standard procedure.

However noone signs such a contract with the intent of paying the penalty. Instead they'd rather move the deadline.

In the case here the contracted weight was based on how far JMM was willing to go. Floyd is a straight ****** if he, as you say, never intended to reach the agreed upon weight. Not very sportsman like.

JMM was cheated. The public was cheated.

Don't embarrass Gino or he will put you on ignore.

[Kagami Taiga]

Look if you are contracted to build a house that has to be finished on Sep.1. There will then be penalty clauses if the house isnt finished at the time. Standard procedure.

However noone signs such a contract with the intent of paying the penalty. Instead they'd rather move the deadline.

In the case here the contracted weight was based on how far JMM was willing to go. Floyd is a straight ****** if he, as you say, never intended to reach the agreed upon weight. Not very sportsman like.

JMM was cheated. The public was cheated.

hoestly i think both of you were wrong, it wasnt a penalty and it defintiely wasnt a option contact. what it seems to have been was a contract change. basically what happened is floyd knew he wouldnt make the contracted weight so in consideration for coming in at 146, he agreed to pay the extra money. thats why when they mentioned it, it basically went along the lines of it being a redrawn contract.

[Code Red]

So Pac needs a 10 Million dollar penalty for a guy who weighs in at 149 30 days before the fight? Just goes to show that request was meant to kill the fight, serve as a roadblock. Team Pac aint sh_t!

[Larry the boss]

It was on the contract, and Floyd knew that he wasn't going to make that weight.

Floyd never even tried, and GBP / Marquez were complicit. The only people who are complaining or surprised about the weight in Mayweather/Marquez are the people who were not paying attention. Because the issue had been on the table for months (July and earlier) before the fight. Proof? Sure.

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The promoters of the Floyd Mayweather-Juan Manuel Marquez fight have dubbed it "Number One/Numero Uno," their selling point being that it pits America's No. 1 fighter, Mayweather, against Mexico's top boxer, Marquez.

They're also hyping it as the battle for the No. 1 spot on the mythical pound-for-pound list, even though Manny Pacquiao and his supporters certainly would disagree.

Mayweather-Marquez, however, might as well be called the "Mayweather Mystery Tour."

There are two mysteries surrounding the fight, which was supposed to take place Saturday but was postponed until Sept. 19 (HBO PPV) at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas because Mayweather said he suffered a rib injury.

Re-starting the promotion this week, Mayweather and Marquez, the lightweight champion who is moving up in weight, spoke to reporters on a teleconference. But rather than provide straight answers to the burning questions of the day, they were evasive, especially Mayweather, who ducked questions like he's ducked elite welterweights.

Asked repeatedly to detail his injury, Mayweather refused.


Floyd Mayweather has refused to go into details on how he suffered a rib injury during training.

Asked yet again for a clarification on the contract weight, both fighters refused to answer, as did promoter Richard Schaefer of Golden Boy Promotions. All they would say is that it's a welterweight fight -- even though multiple sources with knowledge of the contract have told ESPN.com that the maximum weight is 144 pounds.

That makes it a welterweight fight -- anything above 140 pounds to 147 is technically a welterweight match -- but you have to wonder, why all the secrecy? They were more guarded with information than the Bush administration.

Mayweather (39-0, 25 KOs), who is coming out of retirement and hasn't fought since knocking out Ricky Hatton in a welterweight title defense in December 2007, was cryptic with the discussion of his injury.

"The rib injury, you know, it happened in training," he said. "I don't have to say much, but believe me it wasn't a small guy that did it. It didn't even come from sparring. So nobody really knows what it came from. That's it right there, I know what it came from exactly. Freak accidents happen in training. We do a lot of different workouts in training and freak accidents happen. So it was just a freak accident."

Care to elaborate?

"Well, when it happened I tried to work through it," he said. "I was fine for a while. But then it happened again. And I was like, well, you know what? I can't try to be a superhero or be Superman. It's best to take your time, take a little time off, let it heal and come back, so when I do go out and perform I'll be able to perform to the best of my ability for my fans."

Asked again if it happened while sparring or running or some other exercise, Mayweather offered only, "I would never tell exactly what happened. I just had a rib injury. But by Sept. 19 you won't be able to tell because I'm going to perform. I'm going to be at my best."

Pressed again during the call, Mayweather sounded like he was getting annoyed.

Reporter: "Why is it a secret about your rib injury? Can't you just say, 'Hey, I took a shot [in the ribs]'?"

Mayweather: "Wait, slow down. Slow down. Who said it was a secret? I got hurt in training and I'll leave it at that."

Reporter: "And how is your injury?"

Mayweather: "I don't have to go in depth about what happened to me. I got a rib injury in training and I'm healed, and now I'm ready to rock and roll."

Reporter: "You can't say whether it's from a punch or just hitting the bag, or what?"

Mayweather: "What did I just tell you?"

Although there has been healthy skepticism about the veracity of the injury, Marquez (50-4-1, 37 KOs), at least publicly, said he believed Mayweather.

"I'm sure that there's solid evidence," Marquez said through a translator. "There should be some paperwork from the doctors. And I'm sure that he presented the paperwork that was needed in order to prove that it was a legitimate injury. I was calm. I'm fine. I mean, things happen for a reason. This happened and I'm OK. I'm ready to go."

Then there is the debate about the weight. Even though some outlets reported it as a 143-pound fight and sources directly involved in the fight told ESPN.com it was 144, Mayweather isn't saying.

When asked if he would have a problem making 143 pounds, Mayweather, who estimated his weight at 149 or 150 during the call, said, "I'm not weighing 143. This is a welterweight fight. Whatever I come in weighing, that's what I come in weighing, but I don't have to weigh 143. I don't know where you heard those rumors from."

Schaefer, who won't publicly discuss the weight so as not to damage the fragile business relationship he has forged with Mayweather, added, "It will be the most covered weigh-in ever because everybody wants to know what the weight is. So make sure you don't miss it!"

Marquez, who has never been heavier than 135 pounds for a fight, toed the party line when asked about the weight.

"There is an agreement between us, and the fight's a welterweight fight," he said. "Anything over 140 pounds is considered welterweight. This is a welterweight fight and we'll see come weigh-in day."

Golden Boy boss Oscar De La Hoya followed Schaefer's lead, using the weight question as a way to hype a fight many view as a Mayweather rout.

"Everybody wants to know what the weight is," he said. "Well, I think the whole world is going to be tuning in and making an event itself on what the weight is, and you can watch Friday night [Sept. 18] on what both fighters are going to be weighing."

We are saying the same thing. Don't get your clit all sandy.

I said that 144 was on the contract, but Floyd never intended to make 144 and everybody knew it.

Floyd publicly said it months before the fight, Marquez and GBP knew it, thus their coyness/non-specificity in discussing the weight.

And you're welcome for me educating you on that.

I agree that 144 was on the contract, and I said so. Clearly.

But Floyd also clearly said that he wasn't going to make that, and it is clear that FMJ never intended to make that weight.

When you're making $20 mil plus, the $600K isn't a draconian penalty.

You are missing the point.

Floyd DID honour the contract. Was an overweight penalty a part of the contract? Yes.

Floyd never intended upon making 144. This wasn't a championship fight.

There are FREQUENTLY options in contracts. Floyd exercised an option in the contract. Nellie, you are a smart guy. You should know this.

Another option in a contract may be "the price is $900 if you pay by the 1st. Or it will be $1000 if you pay after the first".

If you pay after the first, you didn't fail to honour the contract. You fulfilled the contract as long as you paid the $1000.

Do you understand how contracts work, primo? Clauses and options are an equal part of the contract.

Was it an ****** move? Possibly/Probably. But not unprofessional because he exercised an option in his contract.

But nobody can say that Floyd didn't announce what he was doing.

Months before the fight: "I'm not making 143, 144. Whatever weight I come in is where I come in".

That's all I'm saying.

what are you attempting to argue here.dude Floyd missed weight the contract was a catchweight fight at 144,floyd tried to look shock at the weight in when he missed weight,its ok to be a fan but damn dont try to mak shqt up,floyd missed weight(hence the fine he payed)and lo at a option in the contract.if you miss weight for the divisional limit you can still fight but be fined and that aint no damn option

[mrjoeblive]

This is what being stressed out does. He probably can't sleep at night over those felonies and misdeamnors over his Baby Mama and then when he starts to drift off he thinks about that Pacquiao defamation case which he will surely lose.

wow!!!! you are a sure loser!!! you dont add anything to this site but silly gossip. you should be posting on perez hiltons site. not boxing scene. i dont think you know anything about boxing. thats why your post are just empty chatter.

[BattlingNelson]

Was it an ****** move? Possibly/Probably. But not unprofessional because he exercised an option in his contract.

But nobody can say that Floyd didn't announce what he was doing.

Months before the fight: "I'm not making 143, 144. Whatever weight I come in is where I come in".

That's all I'm saying.

It was a penalty! Not an option to exercise.

****** floydstan. SMH.

[mrjoeblive]

what are you attempting to argue here.dude Floyd missed weight the contract was a catchweight fight at 144,floyd tried to look shock at the weight in when he missed weight,its ok to be a fan but damn dont try to mak shqt up,floyd missed weight(hence the fine he payed)and lo at a option in the contract.if you miss weight for the divisional limit you can still fight but be fined and that aint no damn option

allow me to correct you. floyd came in at the ww limit of 147. so he did NOT miss wt for the "divisional limit" the contract called for floyd to wt 144 which is very hard to drop below your fighting wt that you are comfy with. so floyd has NEVER came in over the ww limit of 147. FACT

[BattlingNelson]

what are you attempting to argue here.dude Floyd missed weight the contract was a catchweight fight at 144,floyd tried to look shock at the weight in when he missed weight,its ok to be a fan but damn dont try to mak shqt up,floyd missed weight(hence the fine he payed)and lo at a option in the contract.if you miss weight for the divisional limit you can still fight but be fined and that aint no damn option

I know you like Floyd a lot Larry, so I gotta say that this was one classy post.

[Gino Ros]

It was a penalty! Not an option to exercise.

****** floydstan. SMH.

Did Floyd say months in advance that he was not going to make that weight? Did he or did he not?

Call it a penalty, an option clause, a reversal, an thingamajigbob. Doesn't matter. The reality is that he told THE WORLD what he was going to do.

Is it a penalty to me if I know in advance that I'm going to do it and pay the "fine"? Is it?

Shaefer knew it. Marquez knew it.

You upset that Marquez got humiliated for 36 minutes? That chafes your buns? Deal with it.

Your jealousy of Floyd isn't changing his position, ya know.

[Gino Ros]

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allow me to correct you. floyd came in at the ww limit of 147. so he did NOT miss wt for the "divisional limit" the contract called for floyd to wt 144 which is very hard to drop below your fighting wt that you are comfy with. so floyd has NEVER came in over the ww limit of 147. FACT

Some guys here don't seem to understand that this was not a championship fight and nobody gave a **** about the weight other than the two combatants.

Floyd exercised a clause in the contract. Marquez took his beating and his extra $600K.

Case closed.