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    #61
    Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
    Yeah a total troll, don't bother.
    you have too much time on your hands bro......

    I've never even heard of you in my life

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      #62
      Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic View Post
      Funny how you're only covering the 160 division. It's cool though. You're a stan and I understand Hopkins can't do no wrong in your book.
      Perhaps your memory is shot but that's what we were talking about. You said, "Hopkins was fighting bums as well or little guys at 160" and I responded.

      And if I want to cover his career past 160, after the age of 40, it is nothing short of remarkable. You can look through the history books and you wont find many guys who have fought and beat the level of opponents Hopkins has post 40. He literally is one of the greatest 40+ year old fighters of all time. The fact he's only lost once since moving up to LHW, a close sloppy fight to Calzaghe at age 43, is amazing. You know it deep inside.

      Which reminds me. I love the logic in saying hopkins beat "smaller guys" who moved up in weight and yet when hopkins moves up in weight he's still the bigger guy even though he moved up two weight classes. Brilliant.
      Last edited by ИATAS; 07-26-2011, 04:46 PM.

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        #63
        If you compare Holyfields resume to hopkins, whats is your opinion?

        Evander clearly has a lot better wins, but hes also got some unnecessary losses due to fighting pretty much 10 years too long.

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          #64
          Originally posted by tennis-legend View Post
          roy jones jr fought at 154 (twice)

          he would destroy hopkins and mayweather

          a pacquiao jones jr fight goes to jones- but just slightly
          You have to be a big ass Stan to bring up Pac, in a B-Hop thread, talking about how he would just barely lose to RJJ @ 154. To the Ignore list with you

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            #65
            Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
            He could have gotten his promoter to stop paying of the judges and ref to fix his fights.

            That would have been nice.
            they weren't paid off....it was just a coincidence every one of his fights had 114-114 114-113 114-113 scorecards.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Harry Balls View Post
              If you compare Holyfields resume to hopkins, whats is your opinion?

              Evander clearly has a lot better wins, but hes also got some unnecessary losses due to fighting pretty much 10 years too long.
              Holyfield obviously has the best names on his resume of any active fighter technically, but like most everyone else I pretty much ignore what he's been doing the last several years. The guy just shouldn't be fighting, period.

              I don't know if it hurts his career or not after he retires. I don't think so, not much. Not like Jones, I think he did hurt his ATG status. A lot of people really think Jones always had a shaky chin, which just isn't true. ah well.

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                #67
                Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
                Perhaps your memory is shot but that's what we were talking about. You said, "Hopkins was fighting bums as well or little guys at 160" and I responded.

                And if I want to cover his career past 160, after the age of 40, it is nothing short of remarkable. You can look through the history books and you wont find many guys who have fought and beat the level of opponents Hopkins has post 40. He literally is one of the greatest 40+ year old fighters of all time.
                Archie Moore.
                Sugar Ray Robinson
                Jack Johnson
                Sam Langford

                Winky Pavlik middles dragged up to 170lbs.
                Tarver, Good win
                Calzaghe, lost.
                RJJ, shot fighter horrible fight
                Pascal, decent win against a good young fighter but lacking in technical ability.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                  Archie Moore.
                  Sugar Ray Robinson
                  Jack Johnson
                  Sam Langford
                  That's it? Like I said, Hopkins is clearly one of the greatest 40+ fighters of all time.

                  Jack Johnson though? What did he do after the age of 40? Not a whole lot. Maybe you meant to say George Foreman.

                  Same goes for Sam Langford. He fought a lot of no hopers in mexico post 40, mostly for show and money. I don't think he would even be top 10 of post 40 fighters.

                  Winky Pavlik middles dragged up to 170lbs.
                  And hopkins was a MW until he was 40 years old? Pavlik weighed 180+ pounds against Martinez. Let's not use size as an excuse as to why Pavlik got beat, we all know he was outclassed in every possible way.

                  Tarver, Good win
                  #1 LHW in the world, beat the man who beat the man, etc. The true champion. Rated top ten pound 4 pound. Hopkins moved up two weight classes at age 41. 4-1 underdog. Great win.

                  Calzaghe, lost.
                  Close, controversial. Undefeated fighter, pound 4 pound at the time. Speaks volumes of Hopkins at age 43. Only lost because of work-rate, didn't get "Beat up" or anything like that and dropped calzaghe as well.

                  RJJ, shot fighter horrible fight
                  No credit there, agreed.

                  Pascal, decent win against a good young fighter but lacking in technical ability.
                  #1 LHW of the world, beat Chad Dawson and bhop became the oldest person in the history of the sport to win a world championship. All while doing it in Pascal's home country.
                  Last edited by ИATAS; 07-26-2011, 05:06 PM.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by nachorjj View Post
                    yes, he has the best resume but Pacman resume is in the same level

                    Hopkins: L: RJJ, Jermain Taylor, Joe Calzaghe
                    W: Glen Johnson, De La Hoya, Trinidad, Antonio Tarver, Kelly Pavlik, Jean Pascal, Winky Wrights

                    Manny Pacquiao: L: Erik Morales
                    W: Marco Antonio Barrera (2), Erik Morales(2), Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar Larios, Jorge Solis, David Diaz, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Miguel Angel Cotto, Joshua Clottey, Antonio Margarito, Shane Mosley.

                    Hopkins: I dont give credit for Wright, and in my opinion Jean Pascal is not the best LHW

                    Pacquiao: In my opinion the second fight against Marquez he loss, in my opinion Oscar, Hatton, Cotto, Margarito and Mosley are past his prime but I give credit to Pacman for the physical difference


                    If you are counting them as just names on a resume, of course Mannys looks just as good.

                    If you consider that out of that entire list, only Diaz and Solis are the only ones Pac fought that were not on the backside of their careers, it suddenly doesn't look so good.

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                      #70
                      Nah, he hasn't.

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