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    we've seen nacho help his fighter when he fought floyd

    how many fighters became champions with nacho??JMM was no match for floyd but he took the better against duckqiao so that tells you that his opinion doesn't count because his fighter is a puncher/brawler and against fighters like duckqiao who have no talent he can look good but floyd schooled him.

    a coach who couldn't help his pupil when he got schooled by floyd should not be takes seriously

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      Hard to see how Floyd can beat Pacquiao, Floyd knows it and thats why the fight has not happen.

      It not like it is the first time this has happened, Cotto, Margarito, Williams, Floyd never wanted none of that too.


      Floyd will always take the easiest fight for the most amount of money.

      Why risk his health and his record on tough fights when he is getting big money for easy fights.

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        Originally posted by BoZz View Post
        we've seen nacho help his fighter when he fought floyd

        how many fighters became champions with nacho??JMM was no match for floyd but he took the better against duckqiao so that tells you that his opinion doesn't count because his fighter is a puncher/brawler and against fighters like duckqiao who have no talent he can look good but floyd schooled him.

        a coach who couldn't help his pupil when he got schooled by floyd should not be takes seriously
        marquez is a puncher/brawler... seriously???...

        well, at least nacho was at ringside when marquez fought floyd and pacquiao... where were you when those fights happened?... let me guess... a dark place where you have a keyboard in front of you... getting warmer?...

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          Nacho alway pick Pac over Mayweather, he did before JMM fought Mayweather and still after so he must have rated Pac more than mayweather.. I wish Arum can read interviews like this one so he can finally be confident enough to put his Prize asset in there with Mayweather for all to see.

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            Originally posted by Dale Cardon View Post
            Since the Pac/Hatton fight, I have been saying that Pac's style is bad news for floyd.

            Pac will crowd floyd with those incessant combinations. Floyd will frequently get those counters in but Pac will keep on coming with his in and out movements. He will have no respect for floyds punches.

            I don't see this as a boring fight. Floyd will find it necessary to engage to win rounds.

            I hope the fight happens soon.
            wait wait wait, hatton is your measuring stick? how many mayweather fights have you seen? be honest.

            Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
            Manny will always take the easiest fight for the most amount of money.

            Why risk his health and his record on tough fights when he is getting big money for easy fights.
            fixed.

            Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
            Hard to see how Floyd can beat Pacquiao, Floyd knows it and thats why the fight has not happen.

            It not like it is the first time this has happened, Cotto, Margarito, Williams, Floyd never wanted none of that too.
            how many mayweather fights a have you seen? be honest. floyd has fought em all... big, small, tall, short, strong, fast, yellow, black, white, brown, purple and dominated.

            when was the last time pacquiao fought someone with an ounce of ring iq and pulse? oh yeah, he got his ass whooped by morales and marquez twice!

            listen i love your bias, tards, but don't talk about tomorrow's lottery numbers when you don't know what the fuck you're talkin about. HBO highlights on youtube don't count as being a "boxing fan." you guys are manny pacquiao fans and only watch manny pacquiao fights when they're on, it's painfully obvious.
            Last edited by John Barron; 07-13-2011, 06:36 AM.

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              da **** is nacho. jmm beat pac twice while moneymay toyed on his boxer

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                Originally posted by Body Movin' View Post

                how many mayweather fights a have you seen? be honest. floyd has fought em all... big, small, tall, short, strong, fast, yellow, black, white, brown, purple and dominated.

                when was the last time pacquiao fought someone with an ounce of ring iq and pulse? oh yeah, he got his ass whooped by morales and marquez twice!

                listen i love your bias, tards, but don't talk about tomorrow's lottery numbers when you don't know what the fuck you're talkin about. HBO highlights on youtube don't count as being a "boxing fan." you guys are manny pacquiao fans and only watch manny pacquiao fights when they're on, it's painfully obvious.
                I've probably seen about 20 of Floyd's fights, And he has never fought anyone as tall and with the reach of Williams, a pressure fighter like Margarito, a skilled welter as Cotto, or anyone close to Pacquiao's level.

                Floyd did not dominate Oscar nor Castillo who won the first fight in many people's opinion, nor Chavez.


                Floyd uses retirements to duck fights, Pacquiao is not the first he has ducked and he may not be the last.


                Pacquiao will not only beat Floyd, he will beat him up if they fight.

                Why is Floyd going to risk a beating for an extra $20m when he can take 3-4 more fights against fighters that are made for him for $40m.

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                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                  I've probably seen about 20 of Floyd's fights, And he has never fought anyone as tall and with the reach of Williams, a pressure fighter like Margarito, a skilled welter as Cotto, or anyone close to Pacquiao's level.

                  Floyd did not dominate Oscar nor Castillo who won the first fight in many people's opinion, nor Chavez.


                  Floyd uses retirements to duck fights, Pacquiao is not the first he has ducked and he may not be the last.


                  Pacquiao will not only beat Floyd, he will beat him up if they fight.

                  Why is Floyd going to risk a beating for an extra $20m when he can take 3-4 more fights against fighters that are made for him for $40m.
                  Think you are being a little biased here. From 126 -147, other than Williams, what other fighter has his reach? SO unless you fight Paul there is no other fighter with his reach. Lets keep it real.

                  Jose Luis Castillo is a fighter like Margarito, one I would argue is better than Margarito. I would argue Zab Judah and Mosley, men who cotto beat with consistent pressure are far more skilled than Cotto.

                  The scorecards in the ODH fight don't reflect reality and I believe we can agree on that. Floyd and CAstillo fought 24 rounds. Even the biggest floyd hater has to acknowledge he won at WORST 18 of those rounds. EVen if you don't like the score of the 1st fight Castillo was not robbed.

                  If you can point to floyd's retirements then please point out that before he did so he agreed to fight manny on manny's terms. As far as ducking, again, be honest, floyd agreed to fight manny in Jan 2010 only to have Manny refuse because of OST.

                  It doesn't seem Bob or Freddie Roach share your opinion on who wins this fight.

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                    Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                    Think you are being a little biased here. From 126 -147, other than Williams, what other fighter has his reach? SO unless you fight Paul there is no other fighter with his reach. Lets keep it real.

                    Jose Luis Castillo is a fighter like Margarito, one I would argue is better than Margarito. I would argue Zab Judah and Mosley, men who cotto beat with consistent pressure are far more skilled than Cotto.

                    The scorecards in the ODH fight don't reflect reality and I believe we can agree on that. Floyd and CAstillo fought 24 rounds. Even the biggest floyd hater has to acknowledge he won at WORST 18 of those rounds. EVen if you don't like the score of the 1st fight Castillo was not robbed.

                    If you can point to floyd's retirements then please point out that before he did so he agreed to fight manny on manny's terms. As far as ducking, again, be honest, floyd agreed to fight manny in Jan 2010 only to have Manny refuse because of OST.

                    It doesn't seem Bob or Freddie Roach share your opinion on who wins this fight.

                    Yes, no else like Williams, but it was a tricky fight for Floyd, one that Floyd didn't take.

                    Margarito, bigger stronger throws more, and fitter than Castillo.


                    Cotto out boxed Mosley and out fought, nothing to do with pressure, infact in the last 3-4 rounds Cotto was backing off and Mosley was chasing the fight.

                    Castillo beat Floyd in the first fight on my card by at least 2 rounds.


                    Can you explain how a 14 day cut period was ok for Floyd in December 2009 but 6 months later Pacquiao put 7 days cut of period on the table and this is not ok?

                    What had change?

                    And Team Mayweather denies that negotiations take place and Floyd says he want to go on vacation for a year or two to spend time with his family.

                    After Oscar, Mosley and Margarito were in line to fight Floyd, Floyd retired, after Hatton, Cotto was the man, Floyd retired.

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                      Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                      Yes, no else like Williams, but it was a tricky fight for Floyd, one that Floyd didn't take.

                      Margarito, bigger stronger throws more, and fitter than Castillo.


                      Cotto out boxed Mosley and out fought, nothing to do with pressure, infact in the last 3-4 rounds Cotto was backing off and Mosley was chasing the fight.

                      Castillo beat Floyd in the first fight on my card by at least 2 rounds.


                      Can you explain how a 14 day cut period was ok for Floyd in December 2009 but 6 months later Pacquiao put 7 days cut of period on the table and this is not ok?

                      What had change?

                      And Team Mayweather denies that negotiations take place and Floyd says he want to go on vacation for a year or two to spend time with his family.

                      After Oscar, Mosley and Margarito were in line to fight Floyd, Floyd retired, after Hatton, Cotto was the man, Floyd retired.
                      Paul WIlliams has been a viable opponent SKILLWISE since he beat Margarito. BUSINESS wise there is no justification for floyd to fight Paul unless he made himself the unified champ.

                      Obviously Marg outweighs Castillo I was reffering to style. Floyd didn't fight Marg because he was and is a top rank fighter. Plain and simple.

                      Of course Castillo beat floyd on your cards. I think whenever there is a close round the tendency is to give the round to the fighter who you like more or whom you don't like least. I doubt you gave any close rounds to floyd. Either way the rematch was at BEST 10-2 floyd.

                      Yes I can. YOur wording is interesting. Floyd compromised to 14 days in Dec 09 to make the fight happen. Manny steadfastly refused. Because he refused, floyd made it clear in Feb and May that he would no longer compromise and went back to his position 0 days or no fight. I know you saw the May Shane fight when he told Merchant this.

                      Six months l;ater, when MAnny decided 7 days was ok it didn't matter because floyd wasn't offering anything but 0 days cutoff. SO while I commend you for wording it the way you did the above is more factual. What had changed was floyd's willingness to compromise ato strike a deal with someone who refused the 1st time.

                      AFter ODH, Cotto and Marg were still top rank fighters. Bob and Floyd don't do business together because floyd is suing bob for money he stole from him. Bob has acknowledged that he didn't give floyd all the money he earned but wasn't sure what the figure is. AGain, be honest when posting. Cotto and Marg can't fight floyd becasue they work for floyd's ex employer, not because floyd is ducking them.

                      Respectfully, Miguel Cotto has never been the man at any weight he has campaigned at. He has been #2 or #3 but never the man. I agree he should've fought floyd a while ago. But blame the person responsible, Bob Arum.

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