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    #51
    Originally posted by Black Jesus
    Im in agreement here, however this is Toney were talking about so you just dont know with that guy, hes one of the most talented SLOW MOTION fighters ive ever seen. Wlad is a talented heavyweight as well, but i wonder if constant head movement and Toney weaving his way inside would give Wlad problems, Toney isnt Sam Peter, so who knows, i mean, i honestly thought Toney would have gotten his ass beat in the HW division by now but he mysteriously hasnt, so while i would expect a Wlad win, i wont count Toney out, you just cant at this point.
    OK ok head movement will frustrate Wlad, than what? Honestly, what than? All he will be in the fight is a moving target, something for Wlad to practice his jab on. How will he get on the inside to fight Wlad? YOu think Wlad will go on the inside to fight him? Wlad will keep him at a distance the whole fight with the jab, and in this fight he will execute his most devastating weapon the left hook. It will be a replay of Wlad vs Byrd all over again.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Enayze
      Jirov doesnt have 1 third of Wlads Power, Wlads knocks this fool out late.
      I guess, im just saying Jirov has pretty heavy ****in hands. There is no garuntee that Toney would let Wlad get off because hes so elusive and slick. Im not saying Toney could KO Wlad, or the fight would be one sided, but Toney is just so elusive in slow motion, hes a fat dough boy who has a high activity rate, and lures fighters into his gameplan. Dont simply think that this would be some devastating KO on Wlads part, you need to understand just who Toney is, and look at the other side of the issue before you jump to a simple conclusion.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Enayze
        OK ok head movement will frustrate Wlad, than what? Honestly, what than? All he will be in the fight is a moving target, something for Wlad to practice his jab on. How will he get on the inside to fight Wlad? YOu think Wlad will go on the inside to fight him? Wlad will keep him at a distance the whole fight with the jab, and in this fight he will execute his most devastating weapon the left hook. It will be a replay of Wlad vs Byrd all over again.

        Like i told you, this is James Toney, sure there is a chance the fight could go this way, but me having seen Toney over and over the last 15 years lure guys right into his kind of fight. Dont ever compare Byrd to Toney ever again, use your boxing knowledge and read into what im saying and think about the skills that Toney has.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Black Jesus
          I guess, im just saying Jirov has pretty heavy ****in hands. There is no garuntee that Toney would let Wlad get off because hes so elusive and slick. Im not saying Toney could KO Wlad, or the fight would be one sided, but Toney is just so elusive in slow motion, hes a fat dough boy who has a high activity rate, and lures fighters into his gameplan. Dont simply think that this would be some devastating KO on Wlads part, you need to understand just who Toney is, and look at the other side of the issue before you jump to a simple conclusion.
          Wlad proved his power over and over before, you can even feel it at home on your couch when you see him lunch his jab, straight right, or left hook. Jirov doesn't have the same quality when it comes to offense, not even close.

          Wlad vs Toney, would be identical to Wlad vs Byrd, tell me one thing different from the two fighters? Both rely on counter punching, and are **** out of luck if you keep them at a distance.

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            #55
            Its clear you have no idea what you're talking about.... Please get off Wlads balls he hasnt looked good in the last four years.
            Originally posted by Enayze
            Wlad proved his power over and over before, you can even feel it at home on your couch when you see him lunch his jab, straight right, or left hook. Jirov doesn't have the same quality when it comes to offense, not even close.

            Wlad vs Toney, would be identical to Wlad vs Byrd, tell me one thing different from the two fighters? Both rely on counter punching, and are **** out of luck if you keep them at a distance.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Black Jesus
              Like i told you, this is James Toney, sure there is a chance the fight could go this way, but me having seen Toney over and over the last 15 years lure guys right into his kind of fight. Dont ever compare Byrd to Toney ever again, use your boxing knowledge and read into what im saying and think about the skills that Toney has.

              LOL dont ever compare them? Are you serious, those too have similiar styles, the only difference is that when Wlad fought Byrd, Byrd was fit and in his prime, when he'll fight Toney, Toney will be 37 and fat. Yeah, Toney has a "CHANCE", but thats about it.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Rodgers=Bust
                Its clear you have no idea what you're talking about.... Please get off Wlads balls he hasnt looked good in the last four years.
                Looking at your signature, it sais all I need to know about you.And werent you one of the idiots claiming that Peter would knock Wlad out in 3 rounds? Your knoweledge is about as good as my 10 year olds cousin. If Toney turns down title fights for 65-35 splits against realy heavyweight champs, what makes you think he will fight a real contender for nothing?

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                  #58
                  Toney schools Wlad...

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Rodgers=Bust
                    Toney schools Wlad...
                    Whatever makes you sleep at night champ.

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                      #60
                      WTF???? LOL. I bet if Wlad was ta same height as Toney, he'd get his ass beat convincingly. Toney SKILLWISE IS BETTA THAN WLAD!

                      Ma point? Wlad is lucky to be a tall guy in ta division. Othawise he would gotten beat lots of times too! TONEY at tis point at heavy havin ta size he got now, PROVES THAT TIS GUY IS TA MOST SKILLED right now. He hasn't lost ion ta division figtin errrbody bein naturally bigga than he is.

                      Wlad looked unimpressive against a much shorter Peter.

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