James Toney VS. Wladimir Klitschko

[hollister]

I'll be a racist.......seems like i would be in good company with alot of people.......

I'll agree with that, there are too many racist people in the world.

[Floydmayweather]

Oh and I suppose Toney is harder to hit than Byrd?

Please. Just look what he did to that cute ass.

He would have no trouble at all finding that fat midget.

The differnce is Toney hits back, and is a much much better infighter than byrd, not to mention a better counter puncher, and he has a much better chin.

[hollister]

Why would this turn into an inside fight? Wlad has never been an inside fighter. On top of that, Toney's physically too small to force him to fight inside.

[Parodius]

I keep telling you to watch the fight because you obviously picked the things you wanted to remember, and watched the fight through biased eyes. Now you're comparing Toney's power to Peter's? Watch the Wlad-Peter fight again, the only legit KD was after those shots to the temple Peter landed in the 10th, the others were bs straight up. Peter landed a very good hook to Wlad's chin in the 12th, and Wlad didn't go down. Guinn fought the wrong fight, he looked very good in the 1st few rounds, Toney wasn't landing ****. If Toney runs in on Wlad and does get under the jab, what's going to happen? Wlad's going to tie him up and that's it. Wlad is bigger and stronger than anyone Toney's faced, period. If Wlad could tie Peter up, he'll do it to Toney too. I saw a ton of things that I missed the first time when I watched Lewis-VK for the second time. That's why I said watch the fight again if you have really already seen it.

I think you're the biased fan. I have never been called biased, this is the first time. I'm always fair. I never compared Toney's power to Peter, I said if Toney lands 400+ punches on Wlad, he will get knocked out.

I know Wlad loves to hold now, you want him to win the fight by holding. That will not happen, every time Wlad throws a punch, Toney will land 3 or 4 punches on him. Yea if Wlad wants to hold Toney every minute of the fight, then he will be DQ.

[Run]

The differnce is Toney hits back, and is a much much better infighter than byrd, not to mention a better counter puncher, and he has a much better chin.

Wlad punches through the gaurd better than any heavyweight.

That mongoose style and playing opossum would not cut it.



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[S0UTHPAW]

Wlad showed he will trust Manny's gameplan, and I think Manny can create a game plan to keep Toney at bay for most the fight. I dont think Wlad will KO or even KD Toney but he will do enough from the outside where the judges can see it easly to win the fight by UD. This will not be as much Toney's handspeed vs Wlads handspeed, its more Toney's footspeed vs Wlad's handspeed.

[hollister]

I think you're the biased fan. I have never been called biased, this is the first time. I'm always fair. I never compared Toney's power to Peter, I said if Toney lands 400+ punches on Wlad, he will get knocked out.

I know Wlad loves to hold now, you want him to win the fight by holding. That will not happen, every time Wlad throws a punch, Toney will land 3 or 4 punches on him. Yea if Wlad wants to hold Toney every minute of the fight, then he will be DQ.

Wlad held in one fight, and landed twice as many punches as his opponent. Toney is a great fighter, but that's alot of size to overcome. Toney would basically have to rush Wlad the whole fight in order to land any shots, and you don't think he would take any punishment? He faded quite abit against Guinn and he wasn't even hit that much, and by a mediocre puncher who smothered his own punches and stayed three inches from Toney's face and didn't move his head. How could a person even try to predict how a fight would go between Wlad and Toney based on what happened tonight?

[Parodius]

Wlad held in one fight, and landed twice as many punches as his opponent. Toney is a great fighter, but that's alot of size to overcome. Toney would basically have to rush Wlad the whole fight in order to land any shots, and you don't think he would take any punishment? He faded quite abit against Guinn and he wasn't even hit that much, and by a mediocre puncher who smothered his own punches and stayed three inches from Toney's face and didn't move his head. How could a person even try to predict how a fight would go between Wlad and Toney based on what happened tonight?

Also the fat Toney stamina is 10 times better then Wlad. I always said that the only man that has a chance beating Toney is Vitali. Vitali can take a better punch then Wlad, Vitali has a better stamina then Wlad & Vitali is the smarter boxer. I would've picked Toney over Wlad last year, this fight tonight didn't prove anything to me. I know Toney very well, what did surprise he came fat & being 37. He looked very impressive for fat 37 years old boxer. Toney will be in shape for Wlad, if they ever fight.

[Enayze]

If Jirov couldnt floor Toney, i serious am not sure Wlad could.

Jirov doesnt have 1 third of Wlads Power, Wlads knocks this fool out late.

[El Jesus]

Wlad showed he will trust Manny's gameplan, and I think Manny can create a game plan to keep Toney at bay for most the fight. I dont think Wlad will KO or even KD Toney but he will do enough from the outside where the judges can see it easly to win the fight by UD. This will not be as much Toney's handspeed vs Wlads handspeed, its more Toney's footspeed vs Wlad's handspeed.

Im in agreement here, however this is Toney were talking about so you just dont know with that guy, hes one of the most talented SLOW MOTION fighters ive ever seen. Wlad is a talented heavyweight as well, but i wonder if constant head movement and Toney weaving his way inside would give Wlad problems, Toney isnt Sam Peter, so who knows, i mean, i honestly thought Toney would have gotten his ass beat in the HW division by now but he mysteriously hasnt, so while i would expect a Wlad win, i wont count Toney out, you just cant at this point.