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Originally posted by PACnPBFsuck View PostBut that's the problem, were not giving some of these guys the chance opportunity. As soon as they get ready to fight, people are quick to say they're not ready, my thing is how can these guys be ready unless they test themselves.
"not ready" in situations like that just means they'll lose
Chavez Jr and Ortiz are ready to fight elite guys at their weight
they just aren't going to win
it's ok for them to get the fights though
can't say they're getting rushed
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Originally posted by PACnPBFsuck View PostBut that's the problem, were not giving some of these guys the chance opportunity. As soon as they get ready to fight, people are quick to say they're not ready, my thing is how can these guys be ready unless they test themselves.
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Originally posted by Pez View PostIn Ortiz's case, Floyd is not the type of opponent you test yourself with. He's going from Maidana, Peterson, Berto, etc. straight to Mayweather. That is a huge leap. Unfortunately, there's no one in the division to ease him in to the top guys.
That could be bragging rights if he's able keep the fight close or win.
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In Ortiz's case he had one fight at WW, then Mayweather. You need more than one fight to be ready for arguably the No.1 p4p and WW. Sure he won a title but against Berto who everyone says is over-hyped.
And how does he go to number 2 in active fighters after one fight?
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Originally posted by PACnPBFsuck View PostThis has been the saying around NSB and in the boxing community, "Ready". If it's not the Gamboa nut huggers, the Ortiz haters and Bob with Jr.
Gamboa beats Solis and people put in here put him in the "elite" class, really?
Ortiz gets manhandle by Maidana and people are hating that he got a shot at PBF, so what, PAC got knockout twice and he got a shot at Barrera for money.
Now JCCjr isn't ready to face the top MW or Jr MW.
Is this the new trend in boxing, cause what I see is that no fighter coming up will ever be "Ready".
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He is ready. People are pointing at the Maidana fight, but really that was the defining moment of Ortiz's career. He quit. Then he got back up and recovered his career and showed his true potential. Maidana wasn't a top 10 P4P fighter. The fact that Ortiz finally realized that he wasn't immortal, helped him for the better. It motivated him to try and prove people wrong.
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