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    #11
    Originally posted by Jack Napier View Post
    when they beat a serious fighter in their division
    that, or when they win a belt
    in either situation, they can't be justifiably protected anymore
    But that's the problem, were not giving some of these guys the chance opportunity. As soon as they get ready to fight, people are quick to say they're not ready, my thing is how can these guys be ready unless they test themselves.

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      #12
      Apparently a fighter isnt ready till *******s say they are

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        #13
        Originally posted by PACnPBFsuck View Post
        But that's the problem, were not giving some of these guys the chance opportunity. As soon as they get ready to fight, people are quick to say they're not ready, my thing is how can these guys be ready unless they test themselves.
        was saying this on another thread
        "not ready" in situations like that just means they'll lose
        Chavez Jr and Ortiz are ready to fight elite guys at their weight
        they just aren't going to win
        it's ok for them to get the fights though
        can't say they're getting rushed

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          #14
          Originally posted by PACnPBFsuck View Post
          But that's the problem, were not giving some of these guys the chance opportunity. As soon as they get ready to fight, people are quick to say they're not ready, my thing is how can these guys be ready unless they test themselves.
          In Ortiz's case, Floyd is not the type of opponent you test yourself with. He's going from Maidana, Peterson, Berto, etc. straight to Mayweather. That is a huge leap. Unfortunately, there's no one in the division to ease him in to the top guys.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Pez View Post
            In Ortiz's case, Floyd is not the type of opponent you test yourself with. He's going from Maidana, Peterson, Berto, etc. straight to Mayweather. That is a huge leap. Unfortunately, there's no one in the division to ease him in to the top guys.
            I agree, and that's why Ortiz should also get some props for accepting this fight. Not only is he gonna get a ****** amount of money, win or lose his he's gonna have Mayweather's name on his resume.

            That could be bragging rights if he's able keep the fight close or win.

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              #16
              In Ortiz's case he had one fight at WW, then Mayweather. You need more than one fight to be ready for arguably the No.1 p4p and WW. Sure he won a title but against Berto who everyone says is over-hyped.
              And how does he go to number 2 in active fighters after one fight?

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                #17
                Originally posted by PACnPBFsuck View Post
                This has been the saying around NSB and in the boxing community, "Ready". If it's not the Gamboa nut huggers, the Ortiz haters and Bob with Jr.

                Gamboa beats Solis and people put in here put him in the "elite" class, really?

                Ortiz gets manhandle by Maidana and people are hating that he got a shot at PBF, so what, PAC got knockout twice and he got a shot at Barrera for money.

                Now JCCjr isn't ready to face the top MW or Jr MW.

                Is this the new trend in boxing, cause what I see is that no fighter coming up will ever be "Ready".
                That's what happens when the sports priority isn't the sport itself but the business and $$$ that go with it.

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                  #18
                  They're ready when a promoter feels the public won't pay to see said fighter taking on garbage fighters anymore so the promoter is forced to step up the level of competition for his fighter.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
                    They're ready when a promoter feels the public won't pay to see said fighter taking on garbage fighters anymore so the promoter is forced to step up the level of competition for his fighter.


                    WELL SAID.

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                      #20
                      He is ready. People are pointing at the Maidana fight, but really that was the defining moment of Ortiz's career. He quit. Then he got back up and recovered his career and showed his true potential. Maidana wasn't a top 10 P4P fighter. The fact that Ortiz finally realized that he wasn't immortal, helped him for the better. It motivated him to try and prove people wrong.

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