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    #51
    Originally posted by Check View Post
    That's simply not the truth at all. I have been very critical of many American fighters like Kelly Pavlik, Juan Diaz, and Nate Campbell. I don't like every American fighter, just like I support fighters from different nations. My two favorite fighters have always been JMM and Miguel Cotto(I think I have made this known by talking about my trips over the states to Cotto fights and rocking a Marquez brothers sig for a few years). Two fighters that aren't even based in the United States.
    They just don't like that one day you started favoring American fighters a lot more than you previously had. Nationalism is only a problem on BoxingScene when it's a strong, first-world country flying their colors proudly. The whole Manny Pacquiao following is based on nationality, the Mexican lineage in boxing is all based on pride of one's nationality.

    Nothing wrong with being American, defending American fighters, or supporting American fighters. But sometimes I am made to feel that American fighters don't deserve to be rooted for. I don't understand why these people feel that way.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Uncle Sam View Post
      They just don't like that one day you started favoring American fighters a lot more than you previously had. Nationalism is only a problem on BoxingScene when it's a strong, first-world country flying their colors proudly. The whole Manny Pacquiao following is based on nationality, the Mexican lineage in boxing is all based on pride of one's nationality.

      Nothing wrong with being American, defending American fighters, or supporting American fighters. But sometimes I am made to feel that American fighters don't deserve to be rooted for. I don't understand why these people feel that way.
      This is what really chaps my ass. These Russian posters love to hype up their prospects like they are the next big thing. Take for example Golovkin, Pirog, Lebedev or anyone like that. They will hype them up to no end but when an American fighter actually fights WORLD CLASS opponent and losses a close fight, he's a bum. Yet, those guys can stay in Russia and fight NOBODIES and be talked about like they would destroy the world.

      I'll say it right now EASTERN EUROPEAN FIGHTERS are a joke and protected by their promoters and fanbase. They won't fight top notch talent but have the myth that they are something special. I'll respect Eastern Europeans when they actually answer the bell and fight other world class fighters.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Check View Post
        This is what really chaps my ass. These Russian posters love to hype up their prospects like they are the next big thing. Take for example Golovkin, Pirog, Lebedev or anyone like that. They will hype them up to no end but when an American fighter actually fights WORLD CLASS opponent and losses a close fight, he's a bum. Yet, those guys can stay in Russia and fight NOBODIES and be talked about like they would destroy the world.

        I'll say it right now EASTERN EUROPEAN FIGHTERS are a joke and protected by their promoters and fanbase. They won't fight top notch talent but have the myth that they are something special. I'll respect Eastern Europeans when they actually answer the bell and fight other world class fighters.
        I think Golovkin is good regardless of what you said. A lot of em are protected though.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Check View Post
          This is what really chaps my ass. These Russian posters love to hype up their prospects like they are the next big thing. Take for example Golovkin, Pirog, Lebedev or anyone like that. They will hype them up to no end but when an American fighter actually fights WORLD CLASS opponent and losses a close fight, he's a bum. Yet, those guys can stay in Russia and fight NOBODIES and be talked about like they would destroy the world.

          I'll say it right now EASTERN EUROPEAN FIGHTERS are a joke and protected by their promoters and fanbase. They won't fight top notch talent but have the myth that they are something special. I'll respect Eastern Europeans when they actually answer the bell and fight other world class fighters.
          Germany is the home to cowardice. Juergen Braehmer, Robert Stieglitz, Marco Huck, Sebastian Sylvester, Sven Ottke, the home to the scourge of boxing. No interest in the sport or defending your honor, just straight up *****es with no intentions to fight anyone. Just holding belts hostage while their clueless fans dole out their money to support their entire worthless careers. Germany is currently defrauding boxing. And they are the cause to a lot of Eastern Europeans getting ****** up and becoming protected. I wouldn't say fighters like the Klitschkos or Dzinziruk (anymore) or Sidorenko are necessarily protected. Sillakh won't be protected either.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Iceta Lives View Post
            I think Golovkin is good regardless of what you said. A lot of em are protected though.
            He might be good but he has yet to prove himself. Problem is people will disrespect Chad Dawson for example because he actually has a loss from fighting top notch talent but say Golovkin is a future simply because he hasn't loss, despite fighting anyone of substance. For as much **** as Mayweather gets for pacquaio. It's the same ***ing thing and just more proof that people on this site hate American fighters and are jealous *******s.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Check View Post
              He might be good but he has yet to prove himself. Problem is people will disrespect Chad Dawson for example because he actually has a loss from fighting top notch talent but say Golovkin because he hasn't loss, despite fighting anyone of substance. For as much **** as Mayweather gets for pacquaio. It's the same ***ing thing and just more proof that people on this site hate American fighters and are jealous *******s.
              Lol at your inconsistency dude. You've been harping on and on about how Pascal is a bum but then claim that Dawson has a loss from fighting world class talent. I don't think Pascal is that good either, but damn man. Talk about putting an egg on your face.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Iceta Lives View Post
                Lol at your hypocricy dude. You've been harping on and on about how Pascal is a bum but then claim that Dawson has a loss from fighting world class talent. I don't think Pascal is that good either, but damn man. Talk about putting an egg on your face.
                Pascal isn't good but atleast he has fought talent and carried a belt. Who are these Eastern Europeans fighting that have the resume of a Jean Pascal? And it isn't like Dawson has only fought Pascal either, he has more on that resume. Eastern Europeans are protected more than any other regional fighter and their fans are the worst. They believe in ****ing myths than actual proof in the ring.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Check View Post
                  Pascal isn't good but atleast he has fought talent and carried a belt. Who are these Eastern Europeans fighting that have the resume of a Jean Pascal? And it isn't like Dawson has only fought Pascal either, he has more on that resume. Eastern Europeans are protected more than any other regional fighter and their fans are the worst. They believe in ****ing myths than actual proof in the ring.
                  Why are you changing the subject on Pascal? It isn't about who you said he fought before. It's about the fact you think he sucks and now you are trying to twist it to make Dawson look better. Lol.

                  So Adamek is protected outside of the stay busy fights he takes? The Klitchko brothers fight everybody too even though the division sucks balls.

                  And speaking of Adamek, yeah Dawson beat him. But that was because he was probably weight drained and plus Dawson may have lost if it went another couple rounds and probably couldn't beat him in a rematch.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Check View Post
                    I have plenty of credibility and enjoy reading many books about boxing and in my free time watching old and new fights. I just think you guys don't like to here criticism. There is nothing fun about everyone agreeing on something. Debate is the most important thing in sports for fan. You guys just don't enjoy differing opinions.
                    Actually, I enjoy scrapping with you tremendously check. Esecially while sec undoubetdly>big ten. And you're stating the obvious. Euro fighters are definitely over protected but pirog and golovkin are world class legit.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Iceta Lives View Post
                      Why are you changing the subject on Pascal? It isn't about who you said he fought before. It's about the fact you think he sucks and now you are trying to twist it to make Dawson look better. Lol.

                      So Adamek is protected outside of the stay busy fights he takes? The Klitchko brothers fight everybody too even though the division sucks balls.

                      And speaking of Adamek, yeah Dawson beat him. But that was because he was probably weight drained and plus Dawson may have lost if it went another couple rounds and probably couldn't beat him in a rematch.
                      Always exceptions to the rule. When will we see Lucian Bute, Felix Sturm, Dimitri Pirog, Lebedev(yes, huck is a bum), Golovkin, Stieglitz, Zavek the list goes on and on against proven fighters?? I felt the same way about Abraham and he sure came out looking like a daisy when he fought real fighters at 168.

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