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    Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
    Now I'm not on these guys side. But i'd like to know of any elite fighters that Bradley could of fought. Please, do tell.
    Im not blaming Bradley just not putting the cart before the horse , Im just sticking to facts not the maybe would have deal, at this point Bradley is potential and really nothing more , the facts that we " do " know is he doesnt possess power has some bad flaws that Holt capitalized on and dropped him twice , this is a big rise in class to what Tim has fought to this point , if Holt can put him down Pac should take him out thats the cold hard facts of the fight and the reason they chose Tim in the first place , this fight is about showcasing Manny and getting him 50/50 with Floyd .

    They all unbeaten until they get beat ! you have got to be real as far as the opponents go when looking at the merrit of unbeaten records , on face value it doesnt really mean anything , ask Bute what elite is and unbeaten means !

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      Alexander was supposed to be unbeatable, the next Mayweather. He was twice as fast as Bradley and threw very straight punches....what happened there? Bradley was laughing at him on the way to the corner and Alexander couldn't hit Bradley with anything.

      Abregu was supposed to KO Bradley because he was much bigger and had power. Bradley wobbled him the entire fight and dominated him.

      If Clottey was able to stand there, stationary and only throw like 10 punches all night and bust Pac's face up, then I can't understand why people don't think Bradley can't do anything to him.

      Pac is hittable and a good combination of movement, defense, timing and counter punching will have Pac looking less than the beast he is known for being.
      Last edited by mathed; 06-04-2012, 07:16 PM.

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        Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
        Im not blaming Bradley just not putting the cart before the horse , Im just sticking to facts not the maybe would have deal, at this point Bradley is potential and really nothing more , the facts that we " do " know is he doesnt possess power has some bad flaws that Holt capitalized on and dropped him twice , this is a big rise in class to what Tim has fought to this point , if Holt can put him down Pac should take him out thats the cold hard facts of the fight and the reason they chose Tim in the first place , this fight is about showcasing Manny and getting him 50/50 with Floyd .

        They all unbeaten until they get beat ! you have got to be real as far as the opponents go when looking at the merrit of unbeaten records , on face value it doesnt really mean anything , ask Bute what elite is and unbeaten means !
        Stop wearing the fact that you arent a boxing fan but a floyd fan like a badge of honour.

        Bradley is on paper better than Baldomir, Gatti, judah. who lost to Baldomir and Kostya, and better than just about every other fighter on Floyds resume. And if you take off of those names off of Floyds resume, there is no one left on Floyds resume, and what you are saying Floyd is a nothing.

        Ask Bute what Elite and unbeaten means? Why dont i ask Floyd, is he elite or unbeaten?
        Bradley has answered much more questions than Bute so dont compare Bradley to Bute. Compare Bradley to floyd.
        And yes, Bute will add to Frochs legacy as well, you non boxing fans out there.
        Last edited by hugh grant; 06-04-2012, 07:36 PM.

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          Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
          Im not blaming Bradley just not putting the cart before the horse , Im just sticking to facts not the maybe would have deal, at this point Bradley is potential and really nothing more , the facts that we " do " know is he doesnt possess power has some bad flaws that Holt capitalized on and dropped him twice , this is a big rise in class to what Tim has fought to this point , if Holt can put him down Pac should take him out thats the cold hard facts of the fight and the reason they chose Tim in the first place , this fight is about showcasing Manny and getting him 50/50 with Floyd .

          They all unbeaten until they get beat ! you have got to be real as far as the opponents go when looking at the merrit of unbeaten records , on face value it doesnt really mean anything , ask Bute what elite is and unbeaten means !
          Well it is a fact that Bradley was the most dominant fighter at 140, which was in fact a deeper division than welterweight. Now while it's fine to talk about Bradley's flaws & him being dropped by a monumentally hard punching Holt, Pacman isn't flawless himself. He is a proven unified champion & he can move.

          I won't even use this fight to bring up 50/50 with Floyd. It's been obvious for some years now that that fight isn't happening. but I'm fairly certain that you are overlooking Bradley in this particular matchup.

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            Anyone who says Bradley is a better boxer than Pac is either trolling or a moron. As For Bradley dominating 140, he ducked the best fighter at 140 saying I can't fight him in case I lose. That's not dominating.

            Bradley will lose, it's just a matter of whether he gets Hattoned or Cottoed.

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              Originally posted by Furn View Post
              Anyone who says Bradley is a better boxer than Pac is either trolling or a moron. As For Bradley dominating 140, he ducked the best fighter at 140 saying I can't fight him in case I lose. That's not dominating.

              Bradley will lose, it's just a matter of whether he gets Hattoned or Cottoed.
              While it's likely Bradley gets Hatton'ed or Cotto'ed (or so the oddsmakers say), he certainly didn't "duck" Khan and he's a lot better than you make him out to be. He may not have dominated 140 but he was the dominant fighter there, clearly #1. You probably thought Bute was the real deal too.

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                Originally posted by Furn View Post
                Anyone who says Bradley is a better boxer than Pac is either trolling or a moron. As For Bradley dominating 140, he ducked the best fighter at 140 saying I can't fight him in case I lose. That's not dominating.

                Bradley will lose, it's just a matter of whether he gets Hattoned or Cottoed.
                Sounds like a superiority complex to me.....according to Freud, Sagan would say to look outside the box, explore and analyze the alignment of the intangible events that coalesce into an underlying force fueling the improbable, Einstein would say to use your deductive logic based on the facts to see what may be hidden beyond the obvious, Hawkins would say there is more than meets the eye....beyond the wormhole.

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                  Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
                  Well it is a fact that Bradley was the most dominant fighter at 140, which was in fact a deeper division than welterweight. Now while it's fine to talk about Bradley's flaws & him being dropped by a monumentally hard punching Holt, Pacman isn't flawless himself. He is a proven unified champion & he can move.

                  I won't even use this fight to bring up 50/50 with Floyd. It's been obvious for some years now that that fight isn't happening. but I'm fairly certain that you are overlooking Bradley in this particular matchup.
                  Im not over looking Bradley , Im looking at this fight in that Bradley is not proven in this class , doesnt mean for a second Im saying he is not in it , just that he hasnt proven to me that he is in it , I see things wrong with him that might make the wheels fall if you raise the class off opponent above the Witters and Holts , he may also rise to it , if I " had " to bet my life on it I would think Tim is not at this level , Id like to see him beat Manny just to shut the fanatics up , but I dont want anybody to ruin the Floyd Pac fight which I think is a still a big possibility because the money is to large for anybody to walk away from , Roach has even mentioned to get 50/50 he must look good in this , I really think this fight is to spear Pac into the Floyd fight with some negotiating power on the money side .

                  The other side of this fight for me is that I dont think Pac is as good as his hype , but I think he is better than Tim and at the weight better but with a lot more power .

                  I see this 2 ways , if Tim wins they gunna say Pac got old , if Pac wins they gunna say he beat a young lion which is what they are trying to make Tim out to be already to pump up Manny , its an interesting fight with some interesting opinions on it , if Tim uses his brain and boxes very smart he has a chance although its hard to see him getting a decision , if he comes out swinging he will get caught , nothing in this would really surprise me .

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                    Alexander was thought out to be the next Mayweather?
                    How the hell so?

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                      Originally posted by hougigo View Post
                      Alexander was thought out to be the next Mayweather?
                      How the hell so?
                      Lampley, Merchant and those guys said it during one of his fights and I was like...yeah ok guys.

                      **Actually, Kellerman was the one leading the discussion.

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