Comments Thread For: Jean Pascal: Bernard Hopkins is a F**king Cheater!

[SluggerFan]

the bottom line is this, floyd and company have and never had any proof......
so why demand such a thing? also it's why he is getting sued.......... it's slander and libel.

it's like saying, you're a pedophile and if you don't take a lie detector test and dna test to prove it, you're guilty......

also we think you're a tax cheat, so we need a full audit of your finances, publicly, if not, you're guilty.....

by the way, we have reason to believe you are on crack *******, and if you don't take the test you will be forever a crackhead............ so take the test because i say so....... take the audit because i say so...............

"**** you" is what you would say to me or anyone for that matter, why? because i have no proof, and have no grounds on making such accusations....... same applies here, even with people who put themselves in the public arena...................

so if you don't take the test, you're a tax cheating, crack smoking, pedophile............... all because i said so.

it's so lame we've had to come this far with this stuff.

Wow, I couldn't have said it better myself. I am just wondering how many people who 'hate' Hopkins are going to run with this accusation from Pascal. I means, millions of idiots ran with something Floyd Sr said and he is a babbling idiot. Personally, I think Hopkins has persevered because he has lived a clean life after prison and always trained like a madman. I don't like the man because he is a clear racist but I very highly doubt he's on HGH or any kind of PEDs...

[GRUSTLER]

i'm not saying anything bad here about mosley, or anyone, i'm saying mosley is known for not negotiating on his end, if he wants the fight, he signs the fight, period, he will do what it takes to get in the ring with whoever he wants to fight, and sometimes that has worked against him........fact.







who is ridiculing mosley??? certainly not me, i'm a mosley diehard from day one, back before he fought oscar, i'm old enough to prove that! haha. and yes mosley would sell his soul if it meant a chance at fighting the best, i think he's proven that and he hasn't sold his soul yet neither. as far as i know, he did seek out dealing with arum..........




mayweathers counter was pure accusations and slander, then he came out with the OST demands after arum and pac came out with the 10 mil per lb. i'm going by timeline here......... floyd, as far as i can recall, out right rejected the overage clause...... but i could have it wrong, i too, like you are going off of public information, i'm going off of timeline, the fact that everyone likes to believe they have inside information is the best part of this joke.

i don't know about pacquiao, but if i were in his place, or hopkins place, i would not let my opponent dictate to me what i do and how i'm supposed to live my life, and i wouldn't let them discredit or marginalize my entire career with such fact lacking and baseless accusations.

your argument of pac not wanting the fight is easily flipped by saying floyd put up these demands to avoid fighting pacquiao, it's a two way street.

the drug tests don't mean a thing, but the control of one over another does, and when one has control over stuff like that, giving the other no option, that is leverage, that is where ground is taken, and a battle on the mental war field has been won, and to combat that, you don't give in, you stand your ground and you fight your fight............

not taking the test doesn't mean you're guilty of anything, being caught red handed and having it proved against you in court, not the court of public opinion, proves guilt.

taking the tests don't prove anything, other than one man can make another do something he doesn't want to do if he chooses to give up his ground on that issue.


the bottom line is this, floyd and company have and never had any proof......
so why demand such a thing? also it's why he is getting sued.......... it's slander and libel.

it's like saying, you're a pedophile and if you don't take a lie detector test and dna test to prove it, you're guilty......

also we think you're a tax cheat, so we need a full audit of your finances, publicly, if not, you're guilty.....

by the way, we have reason to believe you are on crack *******, and if you don't take the test you will be forever a crackhead............ so take the test because i say so....... take the audit because i say so...............

"**** you" is what you would say to me or anyone for that matter, why? because i have no proof, and have no grounds on making such accusations....... same applies here, even with people who put themselves in the public arena...................

so if you don't take the test, you're a tax cheating, crack smoking, pedophile............... all because i said so.

it's so lame we've had to come this far with this stuff.

I would just want to take the tests, make the fight and kick Floyd's @ss for talking ****. Ain't no feelings supposed to be involved during negotiations. I clearly remember Roach saying from the beginning that Mayweather wanted the tests in the contract and Roach said "We will take any tests Mayweather wants and once we do. He is going to make up some other excuse not to fight". But it was totally the other way around. I would consider someone telling me that I had to pay 10Mil per lb over weight as trying to goon me, then taking a blood test. I'd rather give up a lil blood then give up 10MIL and that is the truth. I agree with you that it is lame that it didn't happen over something so inferior.

[Champ Is Here]

Take the test.

[King Ju-Ju]

Hopkins is using what Bonds was using. Lol.

[$Bullsfam$]

hahahahaah Pascal needs to come up with all the excuses in the ****in world before my man B-hop spanks his ass again!

[ShoulderRoll]

B-Hop should take OST. Don't be a cowardly p*ssy with something to hide like Pacquiao.

[deuce_drop]

I would just want to take the tests, make the fight and kick Floyd's @ss for talking ****. Ain't no feelings supposed to be involved during negotiations. I clearly remember Roach saying from the beginning that Mayweather wanted the tests in the contract and Roach said "We will take any tests Mayweather wants and once we do. He is going to make up some other excuse not to fight". But it was totally the other way around. I would consider someone telling me that I had to pay 10Mil per lb over weight as trying to goon me, then taking a blood test. I'd rather give up a lil blood then give up 10MIL and that is the truth. I agree with you that it is lame that it didn't happen over something so inferior.

you have to remember and consider this, floyd too squashed that payday, he was too pig headed in the negotiations.

i'm pretty fair on my timeline, i remember the 10 mil per lb coming up before the OST.......... but for argument sake, even if it was ost then the 10 mil weight clause, why no wiggle room from floyd??? if it's about the money then why would he let that stand in his way?? it's not a rule or demand from the commissions, just his own demands, pac was willing to negotiate and from what i know of the situation, he still is.

like i said, if i were in pac's place or hopkins, i would not let someone who has no power, jurisdiction, or rule of law over me, tell me or make demands of me to do anything............ money is not the issue here at the end of the day, it's just the icing on the cake, or in floyds case, the carrot in front of the mule( or drug mule in rogers case, ooohhh, taking shots!?! yes i am )............


either way, i like your stance on things, you have your angle, and are doing what i am saying i would do, i would not conform and put my position to the side.......... thanks for being civil about things, much respect to a fellow fan for standing for what you think is right............. even though i disagree a bit.

[NinjaMan!]

B-Hop should take OST. Don't be a cowardly p*ssy with something to hide like Pacquiao.

Spoken like a true *****. Why should anyone have to take a test because gay Floyd says so. How about if your wife or the cops comes up to you and demands you take a drug test for no reason. Who the F is Floyd to demand anything? If he don't like the rules in boxing let him quit. How about if Pacman demands Floyd have his butt hole tested for Semen. Let's see how fast Floyd turns down a test then.

[GRUSTLER]

you have to remember and consider this, floyd too squashed that payday, he was too pig headed in the negotiations.

i'm pretty fair on my timeline, i remember the 10 mil per lb coming up before the OST.......... but for argument sake, even if it was ost then the 10 mil weight clause, why no wiggle room from floyd??? if it's about the money then why would he let that stand in his way?? it's not a rule or demand from the commissions, just his own demands, pac was willing to negotiate and from what i know of the situation, he still is.

like i said, if i were in pac's place or hopkins, i would not let someone who has no power, jurisdiction, or rule of law over me, tell me or make demands of me to do anything............ money is not the issue here at the end of the day, it's just the icing on the cake, or in floyds case, the carrot in front of the mule( or drug mule in rogers case, ooohhh, taking shots!?! yes i am )............


either way, i like your stance on things, you have your angle, and are doing what i am saying i would do, i would not conform and put my position to the side.......... thanks for being civil about things, much respect to a fellow fan for standing for what you think is right............. even though i disagree a bit.

I mean, if all I had to do is take a blood test to fight the best fighter in the sport, rightfully claim the P4P#1 title by beating him and make 40Mil doing then I'm going to accept homie demand and get it poppin. I agree that eventhough we disagree, it's good to do it in a civil manner while we debate.
I think the tests has always been apart of Mayweather's demand. Below is an article stating what was going on during the negotiations.....

Schaefer believes that Arum's position of leaving it up to the commission is him "moving the goal post."

"The pressure is on Pacquiao," he said. "They keep moving the goal post like they did with the $10 million weight penalty [if either fighter is over the contract maximum 147 pounds], which we agreed to. They didn't think we would accept that. When we did, they had to find something else to make into a problem. So now they're saying it's up to the commission instead of wanting to negotiate the drug testing with us. I don't want to hear that if the fight breaks up it was because of us. When they came to us with a $10 million weight penalty, they didn't expect us to say yes. They thought we'd say no. So when we said yes, they had to come up with something else. Now we're off USADA, and they are going to come and say only urine testing if that's what the commission says. It's really frustrating.

"We are making compromises. It's a two-way street. If they back off again, I will shut off my phone and spend the rest of the Christmas and New Year's time with my family, and good luck to all of these fools."

While Arum is making plans for an alternative fight for Pacquiao against former junior welterweight titlist Paulie Malignaggi -- who has also accused Pacquiao of using PEDs -- if the Mayweather fight falls apart, Schaefer said he hasn't discussed an alternative with Mayweather.

"We haven't discussed anybody else because the fight we want to bring to the fight fans is the one with Pacquiao," he said. "The focus is on getting Mayweather-Pacquiao done while Bob is making calls everywhere on the Malignaggi fight. That shows his focus is not on Mayweather.

Looks like most of the stress came from Team Pac.

[GRUSTLER]

I think Bernard Hopkins is going to KO Pascal this time around.