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    #51
    Originally posted by Di Bushbaby View Post
    What??Martinez doesn't tire like Judah bro.He may have gotten a little winded during certain times against Biggerfighters,but there wouldn't be any need for him to get tired fighting a defense 1st fighter like Floyd.C'mon son.Stay in pocket Floyd doesn't use his legs much any more homey.Judah,seriously,man,that's kinda crazy.
    Not drastic. Lefty,fast hands, gets tired. Yeah against bigger guys but its not because they used their weight against him. He has a lot of waisted motion. He jumps in like Judah. We gotta stop acting like Judah is garbage. Its no insult. And he has gotten tired in just about every fight Ive seen that goes 9-10 rounds.

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      #52
      Originally posted by studentofthegam View Post
      Not drastic. Lefty,fast hands, gets tired. Yeah against bigger guys but its not because they used their weight against him. He has a lot of waisted motion. He jumps in like Judah. We gotta stop acting like Judah is garbage. Its no insult. And he has gotten tired in just about every fight Ive seen that goes 9-10 rounds.
      Martinez is wayyyyyyyyyy mentally stronger than Judah bro,it is a complete & utter insult indeed.Against the Punisher's high output he fought 12 solid rounds,he can easily fight 12 with the defense minded Floyd.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Di Bushbaby View Post
        Martinez is wayyyyyyyyyy mentally stronger than Judah bro,it is a complete & utter insult indeed.Against the Punisher's high output he fought 12 solid rounds,he can easily fight 12 with the defense minded Floyd.
        Solid fight no doubt. But he was breathing with his mouth wide open and wasnt as effective in the late rounds. He starts throwing slapping shots to steal rounds and that wont get it with May. Floyd is hell on a tired fighter. The last time Floyd looked worn late was against Castillo.

        What I was saying is that when I compare Zab's skills to another fighter I dont mean to be insulting. As for mentality yes he's better than Judah.

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          #54
          I wouldnt even bet against Mayweather at 154 if he fought Martinez there because Martinez wouldnt make 154 healthy, I has Williams over Mayweather prior to Quintana/Williams 1 and since that fight i wouldnt bet against Floyd, Dont even want to mention Cotto in the same sentence, Kirkland might be what a mention though.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Ray* View Post
            I wouldnt even bet against Mayweather at 154 if he fought Martinez there because Martinez wouldnt make 154 healthy, I has Williams over Mayweather prior to Quintana/Williams 1 and since that fight i wouldnt bet against Floyd, Dont even want to mention Cotto in the same sentence, Kirkland might be what a mention though.
            That Cotto business blew my mind. I see looking like Mayweather/Gatti at this point in his career.

            Kirkland would be a nice fight in a few years because right now he has big defensive holes. A fighter with no D cant beat Floyd thats for sure.

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              #56
              id bet on margo , pwill, and pac againts floyd.......

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                #57
                Originally posted by puga View Post
                id bet on margo , pwill, and pac againts floyd.......
                Margarito? Hmmm. I dont suggest betting over 5 or 10 dollars. Tell me how you think that fight would go. Seriously? I say they throw in the towel after both Tony's eyes are swollen.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Di Bushbaby View Post
                  I would bet against Floyd if he fought the Punisher,Martinez & maybe even Cotto.Yup,I put Cotto in there because while Cotto has been out fought he has never been outboxed.But against the Punisher or Martinez,I'd bet the house on it.
                  co sign....

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Dale Cardon View Post
                    co sign....
                    Please give me one thing Cotto can hang his hat on against Mayweather. I mean something worth betting on. I am a big Cotto fan but I never expected his name to come up in this conversation. Especially when people are shying away from betting on Pac.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by studentofthegam View Post
                      Margarito? Hmmm. I dont suggest betting over 5 or 10 dollars. Tell me how you think that fight would go. Seriously? I say they throw in the towel after both Tony's eyes are swollen.
                      very simliar to jesus chavez vs floyd but with margo not gassing and connecting more punches than chavez did.....

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