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    #41
    Originally posted by Di Bushbaby View Post
    The Punisher & Martinez too right??
    Honestly, I'd give Paul Williams a better chance at beating Mayweather than Martinez and Cotto, no doubt.

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      #42
      Originally posted by johnm View Post
      I always laugh when people talk about how much money they've made betting on Mayweather. You'd have to go back to the Oscar fight just to find a fight where Mayweather wasn't at least a 5-1 favorite.

      To make several hundred dollars on Mayweather, you'd literally have to be betting thousands, because he's such a heavy favorite. Unless you're betting props, which is basically the only way to find value in a Mayweather bet.
      My bets arent usually Vegas style bets. I offer that when they wont bet win or lose. Still cant get them to put it up usually. Mayweather/Pac Id definitely bet 4 or 5 to 1 regardless of what the betting lines are. Even with E points for you takers. Gotta do something to make em put up or shut up.

      Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
      dont sleep on dizzy. and its not all about his jab, his spacing and range is nasty. floyd would have a lot of trouble landing some of his bread and butter....but him and james is a topic for later.

      as for now, I'd probably take pac anyway, but if if was 3-1 or something I"m all over that.

      i'd definitely take sergio,

      i just want floyd to fight someone where it might be close, and those fights are out there, but he never seems to be in um.
      He'll get Pac in a minute.

      As for Dzin. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. He's got the same problem as Alexander. They punch at the same angles over and over. And he doesnt mind saying "Ok it your turn to hit me" Hell Julio was hittin him easy. Id be shocked if Martinez doesnt pain him. Maybe not a KO but very decisive.

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        #43
        Originally posted by studentofthegam View Post
        My bets arent usually Vegas style bets. I offer that when they wont bet win or lose. Still cant get them to put it up usually. Mayweather/Pac Id definitely bet 4 or 5 to 1 regardless of what the betting lines are. Even with E points for you takers. Gotta do something to make em put up or shut up.
        Mine aren't either. I use 5dimes, and bet a lot of exact outcome bets. It's the only way to find value in a lot of fights.

        I wish Mayweather would fight Martinez, or Pacquiao. I can't wait for the day I get to bet on Mayweather at close to even odds.

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          #44
          Originally posted by studentofthegam View Post

          As for Dzin. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. He's got the same problem as Alexander. They punch at the same angles over and over. And he doesnt mind saying "Ok it your turn to hit me" Hell Julio was hittin him easy. Id be shocked if Martinez doesnt pain him. Maybe not a KO but very decisive.

          He's done a lot more since Julio. Yes he only throws in spurts but he's using his legs to stay out of range. I think he's matured a lot, but we'll see. Like I said, at the top of his game and we really don't know if that's where he is after the inactivity, and the beatdown of the australian kickboxer.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Di Bushbaby View Post
            There is no hate talking here.But Ur welcome to name me any fighter Floyd has fought that is on Martinez's level.I've actually found a little respect for Floyd because I didn't think he'd fight Mosley but he did & he dominated.Most people before the fight said Floyd was scared,but after instead of giving him any credit,said Mosley was old.(But now Mosley is rejuvenated),go figure.But i think about Floyd,the same as Pac,they have been praying on easy fighters,Floyd is layed off while Martinez is beating prime,elite fighters.Floyd isn't just gonna come back & beat Martinez,Martinez is more ready than Floyd for what each other will bring.
            Originally posted by Di Bushbaby View Post
            The Punisher & Martinez too right??
            It would be similar to the Judah fight. He would get a few shoots in early and then get tired like he always does. The difference is he wont have respect for Floyd's power so even once he's tired i the late rounds he wont get on the mountain bike like he usually does. Big mistake. That models face will be swollen with big man pride.

            He wont stay in the pocket with Martinez but he could against Paul because he's not as physically strong as Sergio.

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              #46
              PBF is the most naturally talented boxer ever (skills wise). And skills pay bills. Boxing is a Science, and he is the Da Vinci, Gallileo and Tesla of Boxing all rolled in to one. PBF outboxes Pacman over 12 rounds.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
                He's done a lot more since Julio. Yes he only throws in spurts but he's using his legs to stay out of range. I think he's matured a lot, but we'll see. Like I said, at the top of his game and we really don't know if that's where he is after the inactivity, and the beatdown of the australian kickboxer.
                Yep we got that show and tell coming up soon. After the Martinez fight there will be no guessing. I can kinda see how it will go. If that foot work aint any better it will be a long 12 for him.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by studentofthegam View Post
                  Isnt martinez the MW champ?.
                  come on now, man. this is the same bs *******s try to use so pac has an excuse not to fight ***ay

                  floyd can fight sergio just like pac can.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by yesir View Post
                    come on now, man. this is the same bs *******s try to use so pac has an excuse not to fight ***ay

                    floyd can fight sergio just like pac can.
                    Sure he could and win. I just dont see that fight ever happening. Just trying to keep as many people as I could from saying "He would never get in the ring with Sergio". If you wanna know how I feel about it I say he beats Martinez easier than Pac.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by studentofthegam View Post
                      It would be similar to the Judah fight. He would get a few shoots in early and then get tired like he always does. The difference is he wont have respect for Floyd's power so even once he's tired i the late rounds he wont get on the mountain bike like he usually does. Big mistake. That models face will be swollen with big man pride.

                      He wont stay in the pocket with Martinez but he could against Paul because he's not as physically strong as Sergio.
                      What??Martinez doesn't tire like Judah bro.He may have gotten a little winded during certain times against Biggerfighters,but there wouldn't be any need for him to get tired fighting a defense 1st fighter like Floyd.C'mon son.Stay in pocket Floyd doesn't use his legs much any more homey.Judah,seriously,man,that's kinda crazy.

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